Hi there all. Bought a 1200S yesteday and noticed I struggled to find neutral (sat in dealer carpark) Tried with original lever and a pazzo type and same issue. I have a dodge left arm due to brachial plexus injury (Can't lift left arm as no shoulder movement) so my left hand is always holding onto the grip with little and ring finger with clutch operated with index and middle. I wonder if the holding fingers were stopping the lever coming back far enough to fully disengage the clutch (notice the bite is very close to bar), even with the levers as far away from bar as poss (both stock and pazzo seemed pretty close even on widest setting). Any thoughts much appreciated - poss move the assembly inboard a bit so holding fingers not in the way, or anyone know of a lever type with a wider span adjustment / other ways to resolve. Hope ramblings make sense!! On an unrelated issue, can you get baffles for the termi end cans? Cheers, Andrew.
Hi Andrew I could be wrong, but I think there is a good chance that your disengagement problem is just a quirk that the Ducati wet clutch has as standard, and if so then it’s something that hopefully you will get the knack of although I appreciate it’s additionally harder for you. it’s worth going through everything just to make sure you have the system in tiptop condition with the right fluid of course. People always mention chain slack here also, and it is true that if chain is at the tighter end of accepted tolerance, then it makes gear changing slightly harder but it’s not really by very much. I’m sure you will master it, most of us learn to find neutral while the bike is still rolling just before coming to a stop, that’s probably the most common way around it. Yes you can get baffles for your Termignoni and will help with the link if no one else does tomorrow. Lovely bike, look forward to some pictures of it
Fit an Oberon clutch slave cylinder, it makes the clutch lighter and makes selecting neutral far easier. I don’t even think about it now.
I didn't even know you had a wet clutch Monster 1200 Sam? An Oberon slave can make clutch lever action lighter due to a different bore size it's true, but it's at the expense of hand lever (longer) travel which might not suit here.
I have actually, I didn’t notice this was in the Monster section and to be accurate I fitted the Oberon slave cylinder on my Multistrada. Can’t say I noticed the longer travel, I don’t doubt you’re right but it’s definitely lighter and finding neutral is easier too.
That's great and many thanks. I hope and think it will be fine as you say just needs a bit of experimentation, and yes, often go neutral as slowing down as easiest option!. Thanks re link if / as get a chance. Cheers, Andrew.
Thanks both and agree on all counts - may make it easier to pull and get neutral (if you normal lol) but with how I hold on the reduced leverage may negate lighter pull etc. Thanks for responses, much appreciated. Andrew.
no luck finding a part number yet and availability not as easy as I thought. looking at the price now (approx £200 a pair!) almost cheaper to get some made as suggested in thread below. A look through some of the many "universal" baffles now available might be another option. (tube diameter approx 42mm) https://www.desmo-racing.com/en/db-...ducati-monster-1200-821-xml-447_639-5932.html https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/m1200r-termignoni-baffles.75549/ https://www.pipewerx.co.uk/webshop/accessories/db-killers-baffles/custom-baffles/
Blimey! - just like that (well possibly ):- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293061024687?hash=item443bcc5baf:g:Gj4AAOSwRrxdDkWj&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoJuaGOFFJMihcXpni7bih1UC48SCiUuYKRF+o0I3ghXHnNWPToHqXR8M1Y4Sxs5S0QaKesAc8p8fNUy1SrhvP03CN33olNIkOhhW0jVxv1zHzY829KlrT02CQECNCug+1ZfNaGMlEn+H50S0NPUi4HCxN4L6i8s4qN0s3jN444ga0Z8XGujYV9RCLgiGfqsW2io0ZLf1jX6VnSqPB5HEiMU=|tkp:Bk9SR_TLhsvhYA several others on Ebay.
Hi Andrew, The only time I found neutral on my 2014 1200S was when I started it! Mine had 4000 miles on it when I bought it two years ago and finding neutral was almost impossible. It was completely resolved by bleeding the clutch and adjusting the chain tension (tighter). Now I have the luxury of selecting neutral at any point in a ride which makes it a much more pleasant bike to live with. I would suggest trying these options first before changing levers and master cylinders.
Finding neutral on my 1200S was difficult when it was new but got easier with more miles on it. On saying that, neutral can still occasionally put up a fight. The only other thing I’d say is that the clutch can be grabby when setting off from cold and it’ll certainly wake you up in the morning if it takes you by surprise. I tend to leave the bike in sport mode so it’s something I’ve learned to keep in mind. Setting off in the other modes is less abrupt.
Easy to select gear every time on a wet-clutch bike - that's a first for me + intrigued by your "tighter" chain adjustment helping - it's a small adjustment window/the difference is hardly noticeable but have always found any improvement is towards the slacker end of acceptable adjustment, as the engagement dogs are rarely precisely aligned when you come to make a gear-change, so slightly more chain slack allows more "jostling" to occur, helping the dogs align and engage more easily.
The clutch packs are tight when new and bed in and get better with more miles - my 1200R was a bit fiddly to find neutral when new, better now at 9k miles. Also fitted an Oberon slave and Evotech adjustable levers
My 2018 1200s was the same, after bleeding the slave cyl several times with no improvement i bled the master cyl , huge difference , bite point much better and neutral easier to select.
