Thanks Al, I will print this off and show my friend who has a little more building knowledge than me and see if he thinks its feasible with the space available. What a helpful soul you are! Many thanks, Phil
If you do put a concrete slab down, think about concreting in a ground anchor much more secure than the bolt down ones !!
What about Insulating Concrete Forms? I don't know what's available in this media, in the video the forms are very thick, but there may be thinner forms available. Just stack the forms up and fill with concrete, couldn't be simpler...
The bikes been living in the lounge for the past 6 months as MCE kindly bummed me with the insurance policy. My GSXR lived in my purpose built wooden shed with a ground anchor into the concrete but for some reason you cannot keep Ducati's in a wooden shed. Try getting a 1098 in and out through a standard door with a 4" step thrown in for good measure! Does anyone actually have a policy that states the bike is kept in their house?
Apple-ogees if you think what I have said is over the top, but I have seen too many people chuck down a dollop of concrete as a shed slab and added walls, only to find the ground wasn't prepared properly and the whole thing has tipped, cracked, bust or fallen down......... .........some seem to think that concrete is the b-all and end-all as a solution and it ain't, 'cos they don't know / forget / ignore the weight of materials and loading from the roof that is taken by the walls directly down to the slab......if the slab isn't stable, then all the work and costs are wasted. And just to put the mockers on it even more, for the benefit of your insurance company; a friend used to keep his Guzzi in the outside brick built bog attached to his house....... ......Even though the door was in view of the neighbours house and securely fastened plus it would have made a lot of noise to remove it; while my friend was away on holiday, the thieves got in through the small window, dismantled the bike and removed it all through the window.......... How long that took, f - knows...........but it went overnight.
All your info is spot on Al. I just did not realise for example, what the weight of the blocks was going to be etc. I am still chewing on it. On the theft side, I used to keep x4 250cc motorcross bikes in my next door neighbours stable. Three padlocks on the outer door, one on the inner door and a chain and heavy lock through the bikes themselves. I woke one morning to see the door open, the lot had gone overnight and all been lifted over a 5 foot steel perimeter fence! My best form of security these days is my wolfdog as he misses nothing.
Right then, after much appreciated advice, thanks AL, and much consideration, I think its going to have to be a metal bike garage. After considering all the points and assistance from AL, building a block garage as it should be built is going to cause too many issues for me. I know Redsail and El Torro mentioned them earlier in the thread. I am looking at the tri-metals or the Asgard. Anyone got one? I noticed shedstore have the tri-metal 940 on offer @ £750. The Asgard is £999, but they do have an account with the company I work for so maybe some haggling can be done. Also, my mate wants one so haggling for two lol! I am unsure as to how insurance companies will treat these come October (Asgard is locksmith approved if that actually means anything) I am not ringing my current insurer to discuss as I have already been bummed by them in various positions. So, anyone got one? Any insurance issues compared to a brick garage? Thanks, Phil
Asgard make good computer cases, but unless you have one the size of mine you won't get a motorcycle in there...............although they could bury me in it, or keep rabbits. Steel, (subject to the gauge of the metal) IMO, security wise is probably more secure than the door in a block built garage..... .........that is assuming the structure either comes with a floor or can be securely bolted down to a decent base. Plus with a steel door you can add more locks etc without weakening the door (unlike what can occur with a timber door). However, you might find condensation an issue. AL
Thanks Al, had a right good look at these and they don't appear to suffer from condensation and are vented. They are bolted down to the floor and come with a base. The Asgard weighs 47 stone. I didn't want to spend so much but alas, its now the better looking option for my scenario.
iv a brick garage and have problems with condensation to the point im thinking of fitting a 4" extractor fan to force a little ventilation.
I noticed on one tri-metal review that he suffered a little condensation so stuck ceiling tiles on the inside roof with stixall. Said it stopped it. Just waiting for my mate to decide which size he wants before I ring them and haggle.
Not sure how much you want to spend on it and how much space you have but maybe a prefab concrete garage would be an option? You can get one for about £1500 including delivery and installation.
