Intelligent Design

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Pete1950, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. His thinking behind that was the expanded universe could, in theory at least, contain more little boys to play with. Therefore it was a very selfish and distinctly non humanistic theory.
     
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  2. Let us take the whole bundle of physical laws which govern the universe, and give them a name. Let us call that name "God". Then perhaps we can all agree that god exists, as thus defined.
     
  3. Blimey, what a merry thought! Two fat slags as icons.
     
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  4. That is a non sequitur and ignores the principle of Occam's Razor.
     
  5. Will it not cut my hedge then?
     
  6. "Science starts out with a story then tells people its true. No testing of that story is allowed."?

    What on earth are you talking about? Is this some kind of joke? If so, I've failed to understand it.
     
  7. I've seen it, even a Lightsaber wouldn't cut your hedge...
     
  8. I think he meant to write "Religion starts with a story..." Just a typo. Nothing to see here. Move along.
     
  9. Correct. Typo, sorry.
     
  10. So you should be *fingerwag*

    lol
     
  11. You're still wrong about science though
     
  12. I doubt it. While I may occasionally make mistakes I am never wrong :)
     
  13. You may be mistaken :biggrin:
     
  14. I've got my own theory about creation. It goes something like this.

    In the beginning there was nothing, except God. He got bored and created a universe in which he made planets and stars. On one of these planets he made a whole ecosystem of plants and animals, and his favourite pets, mankind. He let mankind grow and learn and stood back admiring their cleverness. In time mankind started doing science stuff and created something to smash particles in to each other at very high speeds. They called this thing a Large Hadron Collider. After many years of messing about they got it working properly and it wiped out everything including God. This event came to be known as the big bang. It wasn't a total catastrophe though because this big bang created a whole new universe out of all the stuff that God's universe left behind. Everything went well for about 13.78 billion years until a group of animals on one of the planets created a Large Hadron Collider and made a new big bang. And then it happened again ,and again. Its been going on like this for quite some time now. And that's where we are now.
     
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  15. About as likely as either God or big bang :upyeah:
     
  16. When you [Americans] landed on the moon, that was the point when God should have come up and said hello. Because if you invent some creatures and you put them on the blue one and they make it to the grey one, then you fucking turn up and say, ‘Well done.’ It’s just a polite thing to do.
    — Eddie Izzard, live at Maddison Square Gardens
     
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  17. Thats it I'm convinced. We have now had two of the greatest minds in history say so; Stephen Fry and Eddy Izzard

    thread closed
     
  18. I do not believe in God, I believe peoples' Gods are an inner conscience, made up of all they have learned and seen, their values, their wants and needs, hence why one mans atrocity is anothers crusade.
    Science is both baffling, fascinating and exciting, there are many things that we think are fact, that into the future will be disproved, but on a whole I think they have it pretty right, but we do have to rely on the scientific communities peer review and integrity, in other words have "faith" in their findings. Perhaps one of the greatest minds ever, Einstien, believed in God, So what do I know?
    In my view religion gets a bad wrap, some tosser does something in the name of his God, everyone blames religion, not the tosser, people have been using religion to their own ends since religion began.
     
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  19. Dave, I agree with most of what you have said but I think you are wrong about Einstein. As I understand it he was agnostic for most of his life and did not believe in a divine being. Towards the end of his life believed in a pantheistic god which as I understand it is a view that “god” is the unity of all things in the universe. So, rather like some of the pagan beliefs that all things are connected to become a sentient whole.

    If Einstein had believed in a divine being as God I would agree with you that it might be a good starting point to review my own views on religion.
     
  20. Aaahh OK, that makes me believe in my views even more, thanks :upyeah:
     
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