Hi All, It mentions in the owners manual (several times) that the PP comes with a special spec of Rosso 4 designed for the bike. Does anyone know what characteristics are different in this special version compared to the regular Rosso 4 tyre? I'm going to need a new set soon so curious. I've been very happy with the set that came from the factory.
think just standard rosso 4 and that's what i replaced mine with when they needed changing. don't think they're anything special or one off. expect the language used in the manual just meant developed for this bike - and now standard for anyone who wants latest version. even got rosso 3 on mine now cos a new set were fitted to the bst carbon rims I bought off a fellow member on here. all good
I've had bikes before that had OE tyres, and they don't last at all. The ones on my PP have lasted 4000 hard miles, so I don't think that is what the special version means.
This, https://d1oa3togg7hmde.cloudfront.n...-Motorcycle-Tyre-Guide-2023-4505532291843.pdf, does not show a ‘special’ tyre for the PP V4 but that could be the information has not been updated. ‘Normally’ the usual difference is a stiffer carcass. Andy
At this point in time, i can't find a "D" or an "A" spec version of the Rosso 4 on Pirelli's website. Unless the OEM tire is marked with an extension code, we have to assume that it and the retail version are the same.
And nothing on the tyre itself. I've spoken to a tyre place and they say that at least at the moment, there's no special version for the MTS of this tyre. So I guess it's just stock then...
That's actually not a bad thing as long as you don't need the stiffer "A" specs for two-up and lots of weight. In that case, you'd need to mount a pair of Angels. Moreover, nobody can give me a straight answer and source for the meaning of the OEM "D" specs anyways. It's all hearsay.
I thought the special claim was because they designed these with Ducati for the PPV4 and in the 190 size it takes they have 3 compounds rather than the 2 most tyres use. The smaller sizes only have 2 compounds. They made a similar claim for the Angel GT's when they released those alongside the 2013 models but it wasn't anything different.
@messes The three compound vs two compound is size specific not Ducati specific especially not model specific as it's available in 200mm also.
Just about to get my V4PP after a long wait. Reading about these tyres, they don’t seem so good for often wet UK roads. What are people’s experience in reality. Would appreciate your advice.
Keep in mind that the Rosso IV are "Sport Tyres". Do you plan on any track days? If not, for "often wet UK roads" as you say, you'd be well served with "Sport Touring" Tyres such as Michelin Road 6 or Pirelli Angel GT2's and similar. Sport Touring rubber will provide you with better traction in poor road conditions, will carry better in the wet, warm up faster and maintain their operating temperature in the cold. They'll last longer as well.
Thanks I’ve got Metzeler Roadtec 01SE’s on my 1260 PP and they are unbelievably faultless in pretty much every condition on the road. Upgraded from 01’s to 01 SE’s and that surprisingly made a big difference in all round road handling too. I might ask them to put a set on the V4 PP (and then work out what to do with the Pirelli’s). On the one hand it seems wrong not to have the bike with sport tyres to realise its full sport handling potential. On the other hand I ride all year, the roads are pretty greasy (especially just now) and I’d hate to end up dropping it because of bad mismatch between tyres and road conditions. I ride pretty quickly but I’m not a road racer and I only do a couple of track days a year at most.
My experience is they are great in the dry, very confidence inspiring and a comfortable supple ride with good feedback but you do have to ride with some caution in the wet, they are ok, but not as good as road 5/6 etc. But as I try hard to avoid the wet I’m ok with that. They don’t last as long either, but they are a sports tyre so I guess that’s to be expected too, and because they are quite soft I’ve had a couple of punctures, once when the tyre was near the end of its life, and once when 1 week old! Unless I was just unlucky..?
I doubt they are but it would suck if they start doing OEM... for those of us who rode japanes bikes between 2000-2010 on 'weird model code' tyres all know that they are literally garbage. I remember having a ZX6r on Bridgestone 014's which were the OEM only version, my god it was unrideable.
My wife has a Triumph Street Twin and the Pirelli Phantoms that came with that were garbage. Sliding all over the place and no feedback or confidence. Swapped them for Metzeler and transformed the bike.
If you liked and felt confident with the Metzelers Roadtec, I think you know the answer. Besides, many people have tracked their Multi with Sport Touring tires with descent lap times. You may have to give up a few seconds to Johnny Rea.
