For Sale Ebay Bikes

Discussion in 'Ducati Bikes For Sale' started by Rob, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Clue 1
     
  2. If that's a sps/foggy surely they'd know and advertise as! Is it running a P8, sps has sandcast engine? Should have dual pick ups etc. It has the fully floating rotors, but guessing bitza.
     
  3. spoke to seller and I believe he doesn't know exactly what he has..
     
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  4. Seemingly the people bidding must think it’s something special given the current price. Hopefully a forum member who will record/share the build!
     
  5. To me, the mark left on the top yoke where existing plaque used to be is SPS shape rather than foggy but im not too clued up on this marque.
     
  6. I suspect it’s one of the 2nd run 916 SPS (really a 996) which was offered for the ‘98 model year and which pre-dated the 916 (really a 996) Foggy rep produced for the UK later in ‘98.

    Why?

    The 10th digit in the VIN is a V which indicates a 1997 build plus the serial number 1039 puts it outside the 404 first run of 916SPS and into the second production run which started in 97 and ran into 98.

    Other clues are the Ohlins damper and rear shock, the carbon fibre panels and 50mm Termi exhaust (Foggys had a titanium exhaust).

    There doesn’t appear to be flaking paint on the crankcases, just oxidation of bare metal.

    This thread is useful
    https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/is-it-a-916-sps.67448/

    The non CF front mudguard is out of place though if it is a 2nd run SPS.

    Perhaps someone applied some decals to the seat unit and got 5spoke wheels (are they magnesium?) to try and mimic the later Foggy run.

    Alternatively it could just be a complete bitsa.

    Knowing the engine number might help narrow it down.
     
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  7. "Knowing the engine number might help narrow it down."

    this must have been asked of the seller by now, if you are a contender Paul, then i'm sure he will share it with you if you ask.
     
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  8. Not for me Chris, too much hassle and expense these days to bring a UK bike into the EU :(. I just like the treasure hunt aspect of it:upyeah:
     
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  9. Now at £6700. :D
     
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  10. It is indeed an SPS. The frame number runs to an SPS 1998 model.
     
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  11. I think the Bike Specialists are almost solely responsible for artificially inflating the pricing market, because what they advertise for and what they sell for I think are wildly different. Maybe someone on here has bought a bike from them and can confirm but I wouldn't be surprised.
     
  12. I suppose the "damage to the fork yokes, wheel rims and a few more scratches and scuffs which are rectifiable" are part of the appeal...
     
  13. I saw this bike before it was sold at H&H auctions in December 2022. IMO it is a write off as the heavy front end impact had probably damaged the frame, as well as snapped the top yoke and dented the wheel rim, along with many smaller areas of damage. Essentially you would be buying a bit of memorabilia that could not be used again.
    I was staggered when it went at the auction for £10,350.

    Also in the auction it said that it had been loaned to the film producers by Ducati. Hard to imagine Ducati selling a bike that was unroadworthy. I would have expected them to take it back and crush it if they didn't want to display it.
     
  14. Interesting and confirms my thoughts about it not being “rectifiable” without buying a new frame. Andy
     
  15. If that's true (and I'm not doubting you for a minute) wouldn't that make it a Cat ? bike? Don't you have to declare that when you sell it or is it a case of caveat emptor?
     
  16. It would only be recorded as an insurance category damaged vehicle if it was insured, being used on the road, and the insurance was claimed on.

    In this case there is no reason for anything to be recorded.

    You could crash your bike, drag it home and repair it badly, then sell it on with no recorded history.
    That's why there are so many cars and bikes advertised as 'Unrecorded damaged'.
    The owners simply didn't inform their insurance it was damaged, if it was actually insured in the first place.
     
    #20518 Nasher, Feb 16, 2023
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  17. OK, thanks for the explanation.
     
  18. It appears to have dual pickups indicating a P8 ecu etc.
     
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