Man who made it his sole aim to piss as many riders/teammates off as he could moans he has no friends lol https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1...nd-shames-rider-who-didn-t-support-me-surgery Turning into a right little cry arse in his old age isnt he. No wonder he will never be considered the goat.
To be fair I’d have expected my team mate to have communicated in some way. I don’t think it’s prissy to expect that level of consideration from Pol. Even if he doesn’t like MM, he can still be a professional.
In his total single mindedness focus on winning, he has treated his fellow competitors with an absolute lack of respect both on and off circuit, including your team mate, so is it any surprise ? IMO, he needs to suck it up and get on with what’s left of his career. Andy
Have you watched the actual documentary? Crash.net are wonderfully Daily Mail about their quoting and context, if you haven't actually watched it, then I would recommend it tbh as yes he does comment that not many riders came to spoke to him but the context was more that some found him to wish him luck and Pol didn't even speak to him and sits 10ft away, I don't think that's exactly the worlds biggest moaner. The more interesting thing was his and Lorenzo's views on Rossi claiming people are conspiring against him, they are both absolutely correct, if you are fast, you don't worry about stuff like that, because you just go out there and beat people.
Doesn’t matter how fast you are if some turd deliberately interferes with your race so you can’t win. Ask Damon Hill what he thinks of Schumacher’s stunt in the Australian Grand Prix in 1994. Andy
It's worth a watch, for sure. I'm not a Marquez fan as such, although I love watching every time he's on a bike, you just never know what's going to happen, surely that's what we all watch it for.
Clickbait headlines are the bane of the internet - I’m with you on this - I’ll watch the documentary and make up my own mind.
Blimey Andy, your agenda is pretty clear on this one! i’ll watch it in full before I properly comment other than to say that for me Marquez was/is an absolute one off and MotoGP will not be the same without him
@Symon Moore, no agenda. I am of the generation who had the importance of a sense of fair play impressed upon them from an early age. I remember being sent to the headmasters room because a teacher felt I had not clapped a visiting netball team’s score against our team quickly enough at the age of 7 or 8. I abhor the sort of behaviour demonstrated by the likes of Maradona against England in the world cup, Schumacher denying Hill the F1 title and Marquez’s blocking Rossi when he was fighting Lorenzo for the MotoGP crown. I accept fair play might be an outdated concept today but it’s part of what my life experience has made me …… and I’m proud of it. Andy
Without wanting to turn this into a rossi v marquez debate because its been done to death, the gap valentinos left is still being felt. When 93 was absent for a chunk of last year i hardly batted an eyelid (and to an extent enjoyed it more without the circus that follows him).
See I disagree with this, in a spirited shake your hand in the pub type way mate! Personally it's not been a second thought of mine that Rossi isn't there, he spent the last 3-4 years languishing in the 6-12th place region, he's not been a challenger for many seasons.
Yeh always a personal preference isn’t it but you cant deny bums on seats track side has gone down noticeably since VR retired. Not so when the likes of biaggi stoner Lorenzo etc..retired, and id put marquez in that “bracket” too.
For me Marquez arrival on the scene coincided with a renewed interest in MotoGp after losing interest for several years. His incredible last to first win in the 2012 Moto2 race in Valencia got my attention and I watched the following MotoGP season certain in my mind that he was going to do great things. Yes he’s a ruthless and aggressive rider - but most riders at the top have had moments in their careers that display that same killer instinct and have done things that wouldn’t be considered ‘playing fair’. I personally agree with Andy with regards to a sense of fair play - I despise the winner takes all mentality that believes the end justifies the means regardless of how dirty you fight. But I don’t think it’s fair to write off all of the undeniable talent that Marquez has displayed because of that single clash with Rossi. Much of the rest of the controversy surrounding his hard racing has been coloured by that one incident but if I were to be given the choice of watching a bunch of guys saying ‘no you sir, after you’ each time they reach a corner vs some mad little bastard who will go in so hard that he’s literally lost it but somehow manages to lever the bike back up onto it’s wheels with his elbow and carry on, then I know which one I am going to choose. It’s a great shame for him that his injuries (which were pretty much inevitable given his riding style and the unrideable reputation of the Honda) have seen his time at the top curtailed. I would have liked to see the new generation come through and fight on even terms - but the championship was beginning to get stale again with Marquez dominating for too long and was due a shake up.
I’m under no illusions about Valentino or the likes of Johnny Rae or Carl Fogarty or come to that any of the most successful racers in the 1990’s and 2000’s. For me, it’s not the isolated incident, it’s the persistent disregard for anyone else on track that gets my dander up. Andy
That’s fair enough Andy. I too was never able to forgive Schumacher despite his undoubted genius, but the sport is worse off without him. Verstappen is showing all the same signs of arrogance and win at all cost attitudes that he did now. For me Marquez is an absolute genius on a bike. Like you I’ve been around a while and my heroes were originally Barry Sheene, Kenny Roberts and Randy Mamola, partly because they were great racers but if I’m honest really just because of how watching them made me feel. Rossi was a great racer no question and I enjoyed those years too but I didn’t see him do things (on a bike that nobody else could ride) that MM93 has consistently done. He’s always on the edge, frequently too far past it & is without question the most exciting MotoGP rider I’ve ever seen. This new generation of riders will take it all on as they’ve always done but I’m not sure we’ll ever see anybody do what Marquez does.
