Good to know! I got that quote "had a common worldwide price of 26,000 Euros" from a Bonhams auction listing from several years ago. It mentioned GBP17K and USD23K also I believe so it seemed about right to me when reading it. Being the Euro didn't even exist, I'd say that brings the entire listings information into question. Other sources say $28K here in the US when released. The AUS dollar price was said to be 52K. Of course I'm sure duties and taxes play a part. The original owner of my bike is still trying to find his paperwork/invoice from Pro Twins and says he'll provide it to me. So that should settle any debate on the GBP amount.
That listing may have meant: "had a common worldwide price equivalent to 26,000 Euros today". But even then, that doesn’t make much sense to me as the original pricing would have been computed in Liras in Bologne for the Italian market, and then converted to world wide prices in various currencies by national importers (like SIMA for France, Murayama for Japan, etc.) taking currencies exchange rates, shipping, duties taxes and their own benefits into account. Which would have been very different from one country to the other. You would think shipping from Italy to France would have been cheaper than Italy to Japan, wouldn’t you? That being said, by 1999, TPG had taken over and things may have been a little more organized than under Cagiva.
Perhaps P.O.A, as just a guideline at that time of printing, or the dealers mark up to be added on the sale day.
I wanted to update this thread with some pictures of all of the original parts and accessories as they came shipped with the bikes new - for a UK market bike at least. These are all my parts for my 996R as they came from Ducati. This is the battery that they shipped with uninstalled. It's the new for 2001 smaller/sealed type. Compare it to the press photos from Valencia and you will see the back of the battery is a perfect match. Here is the new replacement clutch slave cylinder that was provided for the recall that occurred ~6 months after the first deliveries. These weren't given out in retail boxes, the dealerships just handed it to the original owner in these bags. *UPDATE 1: The printed copy of the recall from Ducati has been found. See further on in this thread for an upload of the .pdf and more info. **UPDATE 2: Same for a recall on the closing rockers from new (2x for each head). Ducati's TSB to the dealers said to replace them as part of the PDI or at the first service. - IF you have a zero mile 996R, do NOT run it until you have replaced these! Here is the original parts/accessory box they came with and what was included: *Note the windscreen hardware is wrapped with the mirrors, the ECU does not have the usual barcode and P/N like retail ones, and the spanner has Öhlins marked on it. The windscreen and ECU also both have the same yellow QC sticker/dot as the front tyre, left headlight, and many other places, indicating these came thru the Ducati factory inspection process and are not OEM replacements. Cover, manuals/booklets, 2x keys+tag, authenticity plaque, etc. The workshop manual and parts guide are my addition. The way this all came from the factory was with the booklets inside the dust cover bag. I don't store them together like that so they won't imprint on the fragile dust cover fabric. Note: My 996R never had a warranty/coupon booklet given by the dealership because my 996R never went through final assembly or PDI, so its warranty with Ducati was never documented/started. One day I'll find a NOS warranty booklet just to have, even though it won't be original to my exact bike. Still good to have everything. The same applies to the Desmo owners club booklet, I found and added that (would have been given out by the dealership at handover). The NOS coupon booklet is cool but it's a German language-only version. The white dealer assembly guide pictured above lays out very clearly how to proceed with installing the windscreen, mirrors, battery, attaching the front turn signals, etc. Rear stand matched to frame colour:
I missed the previous posts discussing pricing. To answer the discussion re the asterisk - It was to indicate the Euro price. Although Euro notes and coins weren’t distributed until 2002 the currency existed for accountancy and banking purposes from January 1999 so Ducati was obviously already using the currency to a certain extent back in 2001.
To revisit this topic, I heard in a line in a motorcycle video I was watching by a guy in Canada on YouTube the other day... in passing he mentioned that a "PDI was required for the for the bike to be legally warrantied" and it reminded me of your comment and if this was the case also in the UK in 2001. So as you mention, perhaps it was more of a requirement for the warranty rather than a legal requisite.
I found this video showing the inside of the Ducati factory in 2001. I set this link to start where it shows one of their engine "cold test" rigs. It's my understanding that at the time this was used also for the Desmoquattro and Testastretta engine assembly lines. This is why these bikes were delivered to dealerships never having seen combustion or any petrol in their fuel systems - unlike later bikes that were: youtube.com/watch?v=5qwmo9lGu8w&t=207s I had to remove the https://www. because for some reason the forum was automatically altering the entire url and stripping away the time marker.
Exciting new find about 996R recalls and TSBs! I've bought a binder off eBay from 2003 that includes 2001 996R and Testa engine supplements, TSBs (service bulletins), and recalls (came from a UK service centre). Here are just a couple of images for now and more to come once it arrives. I'm hoping it will also include the TSB about the clutch slave cylinder from about ~December 2001 I know about. The one about the rocker arms at the beginning of June explains the rumors I heard from original buyers that some of the dealers held the bikes back a bit electing to do the rockers prior to delivery rather than after the first service. It also looks like my bike falls right inside the frame numbers for the rocker recall and I know it was never done so this is super valuable. At first glance, I thought it was for maybe the flaky chrome from before but looks like it says they could break! So I guess either the new geometry wasn't quite right on the first run for the new Testa head design, or faulty metallurgy. What country was EC back in 2001? Or did it mean European Countries? Surely can't be Ecuador lol. My bike is UK and corresponds to the frame prefix shown. Perhaps a typo and they meant EU? Those Italians lol It's really too bad that when you search the Ducati site for recalls that nothing shows up, but I guess it was a long time ago. ...This is the new Testa engine specific supplement manual mentioned:
UPDATE: Found the clutch slave recall in an old spreadsheet from a UK gov site doing a server scrape. Looks like it was issued 1 March 2002 and isn't a VIN range but applies to all bikes made in the calendar year 2001...so I guess the 996Rs made in late 2000, like the 2 for Rutter to do Isle of Man, it doesn't apply to? Eh, whatever Ducati lol Launch Date: 1/3/2002 Recalls Number: RM/2002/001 Make: DUCATI Recalls Model Information: M400 M600 M750 M900 S4 750SS 750 Sport 900SS MH900E 748E 748F 748R 996 996R 996S ST2 ST4 & ST4S Concern: POTENTIAL LOSS OF CLUTCH CONTROL. Defect: The clutch slave cylinder may leak resulting in loss of hydraulic fluid and clutch control. Remedy: Replace clutch slave cylinder with a quality assured unit. Vehicle Numbers: 2040 Manufacturer Ref: 563 Build Start: 1/1/2001 Build End: 31/12/2001 Funny how this spreadsheet doesn't have the rocker arm recall anywhere It states it's "supposed" to have all recalls from 1995 to current in the UK for all vehicles. MCN article that mentions the clutch cylinder recall I just found: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2002/march/ducati-recalls-2001-bikes/
You go all out when it comes to completeness of history on your bike! EC stands for European Community btw. It’s a legacy term used to describe the EU. Lot’s of old standards and regulations refer to it.
Thanks, I figured it was an older term I just hadn't heard like that. ...and yes, I absolutely do History/research/memorabilia finding super rare parts, etc. to me is one of the most enjoyable parts of the hobby. It helps feed my obsession when I'm not in the garage or on the road, so basically spare time when I should be working Wait until you see the website I'm putting together.
Here is a selection of old service centre documents from Ducati that I've scanned. Recalls, TSBs, SPBs, PSBs, Parts Lists, and an availability notice for the coloured mirrors many bought to put on their non-serialised non-road spec 996Rs to help make them road legal. These of course became standard for the 998R. I have a TON more, but these are 996R related ones for this thread. https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/circolare tecnica/TSB List - 519-588 - Mar 2001 thru June 2002.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/circolare tecnica/Recall 555 - June 2001 - rocker arms.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/cir...Service Bulletin - Sept 2001 -rocker arms.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/circolare tecnica/Recall 563 - Feb 2002 - clutch cylinder.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/cir...563 - Jun 2002- return of clutch cylinder.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/circolare tecnica/Parts List - Dec 2001 - 996R manuals.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/cir...- Oct 2001 - 996R testastretta suppliment.pdf https://www.ducati996r.net/docs/circolare tecnica/SPB - Nov 2001 - painted mirrors.pdf ...and of course, you need a LH+RH closer for each head. Also, note that these have printed "996 R/01" on them, making these the exact correct recall replacements. Note the later boxes had "998 R/02" printed on them. But of course, they will work too functionally speaking.
Here are some more 996R specific documents that I took from the "2001 Technical Training Courses" CD from Ducati. 1) 5pg 2001 996 spec document which includes the R: https://www.Ducati996R.net/docs/specifications/2001 Ducati 996R TechSpec sheet - GB.pdf 2) 44pg 2001 Technical document which I created from a much larger PowerPoint document so that it's only 996R relevant and excludes the dozens of pages of other model info. THIS is an absolute treasure trove of all the changes made and it represents the most complete detailing of these changes that I've ever seen for the 996R: https://www.Ducati996R.net/docs/specifications/2001 Ducati 996R FULL TechSpec Training - ENG.pdf
