Motogp R1 - Portimao **will Contain Spoilers**

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Android853sp, Mar 21, 2023.

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  1. On the plus side, what a fantastic race otherwise, Maverick & Bez rode extremely well but Pecco is being smart and he knows he doesn't have to take risks. The battle for 4th was fantastic will all the riders giving it everything, well done to them all.
     
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  2. The strange thing's that with only what 3 or 4 laps completed he bins it, when 5th or 7th was achievable based on who was around at that time.
     

  3. That’s the point they have complained and pointed out how reckless he is but it’s usually met with “that’s because he’s a world champion/winner” blah blah blah not the fact he’s a complete prick.
    Probably comes as no surprise but I cannot abide the sight of him or his dickhead dad anymore. No one will convince me he’s anything but a danger to himself and those around him anymore.
     
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  4. Interesting reactions. I wonder, would you have a different opinion if he was on a Ducati that wasn’t really quick enough to win and he over-rode that trying to get a result? I am no MM supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but looking at the footage my read of it is that he was trying a little too hard from the start, wanting to get to the front to apply his underlying pace to the race and have a shot at a win, rather than lose the opportunity by allowing an early gap to build. He went for a gap that was then filled by a dangling leg not a bike, and so it went from there. Such is racing at the top level - incredibly fine lines between hero and zero, and if legs were not deployed as wide as possible as pass blockers, a bit of fairing rubbing and a pass may have been the result.
    I wonder, what were your views on Marco Simoncelli, because for me, he was far more out of control and dangerous to himself and everyone out there every time he got on the bike, yet he was much lauded by race fans and commentators for riding like that at the time and practically deified subsequently.
     
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  5. It’s a good point. Simo was loved by most fans and not as much by all the riders because he was aggressive. Imho MM is twice as aggressive as Simo was.

    The issue with the weekend is everyone saw it coming. He has been like it his whole career: he has zero regard for his own or other’s safety. But before the bike was closer to the rest, or even better in some areas, and now it’s miles off everywhere.

    If he was on a ducati it would make no difference.
     
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  6. Overriding it. The first collision made it worse as it removed his hand from brake and bar, which then made him take out Miguel. You could see what he was trying to do as there were quite a few similar overtakes by others. It just went wrong, badly. I'm no MM fanboy, but it was a racing incident. I'd say Luca's was worse as he rode right into the side of another rider. Again, racing incident. No rider deliberately takes out other riders, except maybe Alcoba or Oncu.
     
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  7. Shite…

    He’s the only rider keeping MotoGP interesting.
     
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  8. Aleix, Taka, Fabio and Miguel all injured by incidents with Marquez in the last year.

    Some coincidence that.
     
  9. Away from that turbo helmet for a minute, it was an epic weekend overall, even the moto 2 race which was a bit processional wasnt that bad and had a little something for everyone.
    And we've only got to wait 4 more days to do it all over again :)
     
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  10. I do smile at the confected outrage that frequently surrounds MM. As stated, Simoncelli was more reckless than MM. But as we’ve seen before, death is a great career move and exonerates a lot of previous wrongs. I loved watching Sic as well, the mad bastard :laughing:

    I was there yesterday. It was hot! Bit of sunburn going on now. Had 3 days at Jerez followed by 3 days enduro- fell off countless times. Feel like I’ve been in a car crash and my right knee’s fucked… And I’m also an alcoholic karaoke king… It was bloody marvellous!!! :D
     
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  11. A d capirossi
     
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  12. And Rossi. ;)
     
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  13. I'm no mm fan, but have defended him in the past, but yesterday thought he was out of order. I think riders are the best judges at what's dangerous or not, and with simo ,several riders said at the time, with his style, someone will get seriously hurt, or worse. They were right then. I was a fan of simoncelli, but I think he got cut a bit more slack cause he was big mates with rossi
     
  14. I don’t have the inside line on who did what when, but my understanding was that Rossi was not previously a mate but was his countryman and from his position as de-facto ambassador for Moto GP at the time, saw that he was going to get kicked out or kill someone, and “took him under his wing” to try and keep the talent and passion but temper the wildness. It didn’t work and we know the result.
     
  15. MM is what, 29 now? With plenty of experience and big accidents behind him. He now has less excuses to ride like a twat and deep down he knows better. Unfortunately it is the nature of the beast.
    Racing incident? Maybe, but he had been out of the seat twice before hand and was just being the usual MM. Plenty other racers over the years have been infuriated by his dangerous and unpredictable antics mid corner and in qualifying also.
    There were other riders out there riding a bit wild over the weekend, none with the same experience, ex champions, or just returning from career threatening injuries.
     
  16. Marc won't be riding at the Argentina GP as he has had surgery on his hand today. The double long lap penalty was specific to Argentina, so I guess if he is fit for the American round it will be penalty free........
     
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  17. Who was that Australian nut case that literally rammed Neil Hodgson off track?? Gobert?? Something like that. Now he was a proper nutter… o_O
     
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  18. I've seen quite a lot of comments about how he's got away with it, but he hasn't because the penalty is about reducing his ability to score big points, and the fact he's missing the whole round does that by default, so he's lost out because he bust himself up in a miss-judged move.
     
  19. Gobert was a moron. Wasted his talent.
     
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