748 Ball Joint/rod End Bearing Specs?

Discussion in '748 / 916 / 996 / 998' started by RoadRunner, Aug 21, 2023.

  1. Good evening,
    Looking to replace:
    Gear shift rod, ball joint ends - £13.39 each - M6?
    Suspension tie-rod ball joint ends - £116.23 each - M8 or M10?
    748 Bip W Reg / 2000

    Is there anything special about these parts part from the price? All 4 ends have a different parts code so do I assume the only difference is possibly a LH thread for one end??

    I've found a UK supplier that sells Stainless Steel rod end bearing versions for a fraction of the 'official' price but need to know the specifications if anyone knows them (without ripping their bike apart)!
    Also, any supplier suggestions would be greatly appreciated- no rush as I've plenty to keep me busy! ;-)
    Cheers
    RR.
     
  2. Yes, L/H thread is the only difference. I bought an M6 one not long ago for the steering damper, from a local bearing shop. Cost about £3 and felt quality enough. I would pay decent money for the height adjuster ones though as they are far more critical.
     
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  3. There’s a great company located at Knockhill Circuit that do rod ends - unfortunately I cannot remember their name right now. I used them to replace the rod ends on my 749 and 916.
    Unfortunately, I am just about to leave to go away for a few days otherwise I’d dig out their details and the rod end specs.
     
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  4. It's worth looking at the good-quality bearing manufacturers such as SKF. Example link shows M6 with PTFE and bronze alternative bearing surfaces. Important thing IMO would be low clearance (= low slop)...

    https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=skf rod end&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVhH9JUfVtjHQaHfFb8dxw0NIZta2m274OlW6zRC12qJU0ma7bSLiMsaAv9aEALw_wcB&
     
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  5. Recently fitted an adjustable ride height linkage to the 959
    Fitted some fluro bearings
    Which I got from a company called ABC Autosport
    These were there M.S range
    Which I've found to be very good
     
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  6. This. The cheap ones have slop. You can read the technical specifications for each part on their website.
     
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  7. That’s the place. Really quick delivery and excellent prices too.
     
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  8. Yes, the rod-ends on my Monster floating rear brake rod developed slop within a year or so (and I don't even use the brake much!) so I replaced them with some from McGill and 10 years or so later they are still slop-free.

    Also using them for the ride-height rod on the 916 plus gearshift linkages on Monster and Guzzi (don't need them on the 916 gears as I have a direct shift lever).

    I wanted to replace the ends on my Monster's rear hoop as they're a bit scruffy but, unfortunately no-one seems to make them with the M10 x 1.0mm, fine pitch thread but they still work fine so no real bother.
     
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  9. This what I love about this forum, so much help, support and suggestions where to buy - saves purchasing duff goods! Many thanks to all - now, time to browse and buy!
    Cheers RR
     
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  10. call the guys at mcgill, very helpful and lots of options and quality/price.
     
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  11. 99.9% sure it was McGills who I also used for the suspension rod bearings, far better than the OE parts. Agree with above, friendly bunch and speedy delivery.
     
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  12. Don't happen to recall the thread size, pitch, direction etc. do you?
    The parts diagram and price list don't specify these details.
    Cheers RR
     
  13. I may have ,what ones are you looking for ?
     
  14. Cheers, gear shift and suspension tie rod, both ends. Many thank RR.
     
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  16. Dig em out for you in a bit, from memory they are nothing out the ordinary, ie m8x1.25 type so whatever it measures.
    I will check in a bit
     
  17. M12x1.5
    M6x1
    Left and right for both and lock nuts
     
  18. Brill, many thanks!! I can order some without having it in bits whilst waiting.
    Many thanks
    RR.
     
  19. FYI, here’s the ones I ordered for the suspension link on my 749 and 1098 (same sizes):

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