1260 Arghhh, Seized Tank Cover Bolts

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by aviating cud, Sep 20, 2023.

  1. 7 of the tank cover bolts are seized in the tank and are spinning the brass nuts! I’ve drilled the heads off but the screw thread is well and truly seized in. I know I’ve done the work myself but should this be a warranty claim? I’ve saved the workshop having to drill off the heads and remove the cover:joy:. I was only checking out my fuel smell
     
  2. I don’t know if this is a good idea, but given that they are spinning, it might be easy to superglue an allen key into the bolt head and pull them out.

    If it works, you’ll have to wait for someone more mechanically competent to suggest what to do next.
     
  3. It’s probably worth a chat with the dealer too.

    If I’ve cocked up, I come clean with them and fall upon their mercy.
     
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  4. ^ this was Post of the Day (yesterday) for me. How many miles/how old is your 1260? Commiserations, we've all been there but inexcusable on one so young.
     
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  5. The bike is only 2 1/2 years old so there’s no way they should have been seized. I’ve drilled the heads off but now need to extract the brass inserts without butchering the tank. Crap design.
     
  6. I haven’t cocked up! When they spin there is nothing you can do other than drill the head off and hope for the best. The inserts are rubbish as they only have a slight bit of knurling on them so spin easily if they’re seized or the fasteners are bottomed on to them.
     
  7. no, you haven't really cocked up as such, but there are tricks you can try to get screws loose that nearly always work with perseverance but you shouldn't have to resort to this in the first place.
     
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  8. I would be very grateful if you could share these with us, Chris.

    I hope to take mine apart soon:sweat::sweat::sweat:o_Oo_Oo_O
     
  9. There is no way to access the insert when the fairings are fitted as they’re tight up against the insert. If they don’t loosen and spin the insert they’re knackered. Chris, you seem to an expert so how would you do it?

    the good news is that the bike is going to Ducati Stoke next week.
     
  10. that's why I suggested a picture just to rule things out in my direct message to you a.c., I am no God, and can't claim to do this every time, but do love a challenge and did similar on a bike called a Track earlier this year, i.e., nothing showing but the screw head but the insert was clearly turning below.So I'm guessing you have all sprayed maintenance spray for starters? this needs to penetrate the part where the thread enters the insert, and I appreciate that you are blind at this point, so sometimes comes down to a general soaking under the fixing screw even if it means distorting or moving upward slightly. One thing you can try next is tapping on the head of the screw, not too hard, not too soft but repeatedly, persistently and carefully trying turning screw from time to time. The action that makes any attempts harder to remove once you have discovered that the insert(s) are spinning, is to keep turning the screwdriver as this diminishes your chances quite quickly. The last method that nearly always works is a little bit brutal but I would need to see the fixings because it might not be possible. No point in me describing this to you a.c. but went to Direct Message you Twin lover but it appears that you have removed this feature?
     
    #10 Chris, Sep 21, 2023
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  11. Tried all of the above with no success. Thanks for taking the time to help.
     
  12. except for the last one.. also, did you stop trying to turn the screw as soon as you felt the splines "clicking "?
     
  13. Yes I did Chris. Drilled the head off in the hope to easy out the remaining thread but they’re well seized and just turned the insert.
     
  14. Last method I will send to Twin Lover if he want's me to, but ideally a picture will help (as requested) - I guess I could try and get one myself.

    EDIT - added below, please point out the culprits.


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  15. One of the file cap screws, both top fasteners under the top cover for the push button power up, 2 either side on the lower attachments.
     
  16. they are numbered! - will be quicker. :):upyeah:
     
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  17. It’s the number 3 fasteners
     
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  18. what you can do when those brass insert turn with the screws (depending on style) is just keep turning and lift the panel away from what ever it is inserted to. once the panel is removed you can remove the screw from the insert and rebond the inserts back into whatever they were pulled from.
     
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  19. Yes!

    Please send me the last method. I don’t know how my message settings changed, but they are now correct.
     
    #19 Twinlover, Sep 21, 2023
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  20. Fair comment, I meant me not you, but the post was badly worded.

    I often cock up.
     
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