V4 Multistrada V4rs

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by outintheopen, Aug 9, 2023.

  1. Agreed that all three engines share similar engine configuration (90 degree V4, counter rotating crank, 70 degree offset crank pins) but I thought the Pani/ SF engines (Desmosedici Stradale) have demo valve actuation. whereas the Multi engine (V4 Granturismo) uses valve spring actuation. The Pani / SF engines also have a much deeper sump compared with the Multi (which needs a lot more ground clearance).
     
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  2. think we might need a separate thread for this topic :)
     
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  3. Yeah, we wanna bitch and moan about the colour of the calipers, and whether or not it has pannier mounts and grab handles on here!
     
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  4. . Post deleted because it was a load of bollocks :D Andy
     
    #204 Android853sp, Oct 17, 2023
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  5. @Android853sp is so knowledgeable about all things Multistrada (and Ducati in general) that first istinct was to think I was wrong..however even the best are not 100% accurate all the time...:)

    From the Ducati UK website, talking about the Desmosedici stradale:
    • Desmo: blending tradition and the future
      The new engine is designed around the Desmodromic system, a characteristic that helps make Ducati the fastest prototypes of the top racing class in motorcycle racing. With this high-rotation engine the "Desmo" achieves its maximum technical value, reaching levels of sophistication, compactness and lightness never seen before on a Ducati.
    • Also, the Italian website adds: "regolazione manuale del sistema desmodromico della distribuzione realizzata per ogni esemplare" (manual tuning of the desmodromic system for each individual unit) .
    https://www.ducati.com/it/it/azienda/innovation/motori/desmosedici-stradale
     
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  6. Yea definitely wrong on this one. Only the Multi V4 doesn’t have desmo valves . The Panigale and Streetfighter do.

    The new Panigale V4 2022 is powered by the 1,103 cm3 Desmosedici Stradale (banked 42° back from the horizontal), a MotoGP-derived 90° V4 with Desmodromic timing, a one-of-a-kind engine featuring a counter-rotating crankshaft and Twin Pulse firing order. The engine can deliver 215.5 hp at 13,000 rpm and a torque of 12.6 kgm at 10,000 rpm, making for awesome road riding.
     
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  7. Okay, hands up, got it wrong. Andy
     
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  8. The bore and stroke differ between the Pani/SF & Multi. Having ridden the Multi and a SF, albeit for a day, I can say they are very different engines.

    I wondered why they wouldn't just slip the original engine in the Multi, but having ridden one, I can see why they didn't. Each engine seems to be suited to the individual bike and in all honesty, I thought the Pani engine was too much for the Multi.
     
    #208 gc6269, Oct 17, 2023
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  9. Which is why I suspect the V4RS is a retuned Multi engine with dry clutch possibility rather than the SF engine.
    I’ve ridden both the SF and Pani V4 too and I doubt either engine would work well in an adventure bike like the Multi.
     
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  10. Clearly not as knowledgeable as I thought :joy: Andy
     
  11. Not much longer to wait folks! I’m trying to decide what bikes I’d have in the garage if I got one, as I’d need to have something to tour on, and from the picture it doesn’t look like this would be the ideal bike for that.
     
  12. Desert X
     
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  13. Admittedly based on a grainy picture, I don’t get this bike. I can’t see why you’d necessarily buy one over a PP. IMHO, it doesn’t look as good and there’s not enough of anything else to take my eye. Mine is quick enough for me, with the full system there’s more than I need.

    If I’m honest, I’m relieved, Christmas is back on!
     
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  14. Ignoring the possible spec, I just don’t think it looks as good as a PP. It just doesn't stand out as much.
     
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  15. I’m thinking along the same lines, but until I see the proper pictures & specs I’m still telling the wife that Christmas is potentially cancelled.
     
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  16. It's definitely the same engine as the PP, maybe a different clutch, that engine ought to be good for a 13k RPM limit instead of the low 10k, along with some electronic trickery and the exhaust you'd think that they could easily get another 30bhp + out of it with shorter valve services.
     
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  17. Definitely a dry clutch going by the video released today as a teaser
     
  18. got a link? i could only find crap ones
     
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  20. cheers that is a tease :D and carbon hand/lever guards (and they're probably an expensive option :joy:) about all i can see
     
    #220 Fraser, Oct 18, 2023
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