Uk Citizenship... Is It Worth It?

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by freshage, Jan 10, 2024.

  1. That reminds me I must get on with my Irish Passport application, especially now that I live almost walking distance from the Cairnryan ferry.
     
  2. I applied for an Irish passport when Brexit was announced
    Unfortunately I ’m one generation away from qualifying and being married to an Irish citizen has no bearing
    My other option would be to buy property over there and reside for a number of years.
     
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  3. You have my sympathy ..... :D

    At first it looked like a fairly easy route to regain European citizenship for people with Irish ancestry ,
    but the practicalities are challenging , to say the least .
    My friend worked hard on this ..... his father ( deceased ) was born in Ireland , and he has his birth certificate
    and expired passport to prove it , but so far he has only received a load of old Blarney in response .

    First :- " Since Brexit , we are dealing with a large back-log of passport applications "
    Second :- " There was a fire in the records office which has hampered tracing of original documents "
    .... or words to that effect ( the fire is actually true ) .

    In short ..... " Ah Jaysus , don't be holding yer breath now ! "

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  4. France allows dual citizenship, not sure about Spain. (https://iasservices.org.uk/es/citizenship/dual-citizenship/)
    I do know that by becoming a citizen of some European countries means losing some rights in country of origin (Holland for example, according to our Dutch neighbours in France)

    I will be applying for French citizenship later this year. Not sure of the waiting list atm for the interview. Need to polish up my French language skills a bit more first.

    Currently we have ‘carte de sejour’ residency permits so can stay as long as we want, subject to carte renewals at 5 years.

    As to the time/day limit, we have read that the French are considering increasing the allowed time, but it is inferred that it is only for people owning homes in France, who do not have a passport or residency carte.
     
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  5. Been there, done that, PM me if you have any questions or if you think I can help. I found it a looong process.
     
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  6. Everything is a looong process here, also a wonder we have so many trees in our area….the paperwork they generate here is incredible!
    Lots of plus points though o_O

    Importing my last GS from the UK and registering in France took some determination…
     
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  7. Handing in passports is ok surely - get another one. I would be very careful about handing anyone your original birth certificate though. Any foreign "Department" that wants that can get stuffed.

    We went to live in Portugal when my sister and I were still quite young. The school that we registered with wanted our original birth certificates, which my Dad gave them thinking is was temporary. But the school would not give them back. Dad had to tell a big lie that they were needed for something to do with the Consulate, got them back eventually and Dad never gave them back to the school. Bastards were going to keep them.
     
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  8. im Germany resident, but not taken the passport (don't qualify)as I don't have B1 language certificate.... but operate my own company in Germany... go figure..
    you have my sympathy, from one Brexit refugee to another...
     
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  9. I wonder if a politely written letter like this might do the trick ....

    Dear EU

    Could we please change our rather regrettable earlier decision to leave ?
    And pretty please ( with sugar on top ) would you let us join in again ?
    We promise to be on our best behaviour , and to not elect any more clowns , imbeciles or nutters .

    Preferably on the same terms that Maggie negotiated for us ....
    .... one foot in , for all of the beneficial stuff , but with the other foot definitely out ,
    to avoid us having to fork out truck loads of money for EU community projects .

    ( Note - there might be some flexibility , or "wiggle-room" , on the above point ) .

    Yours sincerely
    UK population ( and oldtech )
     
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  10. You can of course now order a Birth Certificate in minutes via the gov.uk website. When you apply for citizenship of another country they not unreasonably want (and generally) keep a Birth Cert but you don't have to give them the original. (In case this helps anyone.)
     
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  11. I wonder what happens if you renounce your UK citizenship but don’t obtain citizenship elsewhere. Do you need to live permanently on the move? Does being a citizen of nowhere exempt you from paying taxes? :thinkingface:
     
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  12. That's an interesting point .
    A long while back , I had a South African neighbour who was seeking political asylum in the UK .
    He had renounced his nationality and was technically a stateless person .

    After a very long struggle he was eventually given a United Nations passport ....
    .... but only God ( or her accountants ) know which jurisdiction had the right to levy taxes on him !
     
  13. Right, you can't.

    https://www.gov.uk/renounce-british-nationality

    'You can only give up your British citizenship or status if either of the following apply:

    you already have another citizenship or nationality
    you’re going to get another citizenship or nationality after giving up your British citizenship or status'
     
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  14. Dammit :triumph:
     
  15. Or marry a jihadi?

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  16. You could do but you might have to go and live in an airport, if that documentary featuring Tom Hanks is anything to go by.
     
  17. Or carry on living where I am but go around quoting the Magna Carta and the Bills of Exchange Act 1882 like those halfwits who claim “Freeman on the Land” status in order to try to get out of paying their council tax and parking tickets. :laughing:
     
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  18. Next time you're asked if your drive needs tarmacing you should ask...:upyeah:
     
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  19. Yeah that ! ...... wot you just said
    ..... idiots acting as if we had a Constitution ...... :joy:

    I'll just quote The Bard of Salford ...... then I'll get me coat .

    " Fools do those villains pity who are punish'd
    Ere they have done their mischief. "
     
  20. You wouldn't be allowed anywhere but couldn't move away as you don't have a passport? Just befriend some Tories, that seems to exempt you from paying taxes and you might get a nice lucrative government contract on top.
     
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