I never intended to keep my 1260s for more than the extended warranty period of 4 years, but imho there's nothing better out there.
I've owned over 60 bikes during my years of riding. I can only remember buying 3 new bikes over the 60+ years otherwise I bought 2 to 5 year old bikes. When I did buy new bikes it was for a "special" occasion such as completion of my second round of Chemo. The Multi V4rS I just bought is for my 75th Birthday ( that "may" be especial occasion IMHO). Collectors Collect & Riders Ride. This will be my "swan song" bike and hopefully I can still throw a leg over it at 80!!!! Ride to Live & Live to Rides Brothers!!!!
@freshage The 1260 GT is not only amazing but gorgeous also. About the same here as I have a 1260 Pikes Peak. I don't feel the need to upgrade and to what?. Price aside, I don't think the V4S is an improvement. That's subjective of course and I respect the opinion of those that do.
The 1260GT is the only bike I will change to from my 1200GT, just need to wait another few years until it becomes available within my 'acceptable spend limit' for a bike. Current bike will have around 70,000 miles by then so will be pretty much worthless too.
I bought I 1200GT A couple of months ago with just 10K on the clock so I'm pleased it will go on for so long! I'm lucky they haven't radically changed the look of the Multi since then, still looks good to me.
Now ‘leveraging credit’. That is a bullshit phrase devised by the banking industry to try and hide the term ‘borrowing more’. I’m getting to the point where working less is more important than having more. At some point (Most likely this year) I will downsize the V4 Multi to something smaller, lighter and cheaper to run and maybe just go down to one bike. A few to consider but the Desert X is still high in the agenda.
You're not the only one to say that. I may get flamed for saying this but IMO Ducati really screwed up the launch of the 2021 Multistrada model. The 19" front wheel, the double sided swing-arm and the lack of Desmo really alienated some Ducati Multistrada loyalists. Moreover, the Granturismo power-plant didn't add a significant amount of HP over the outgoing Testastretta 11° twin-cylinder engine. 143.82 hp for the V4 vs 140.45 hp for the V2. Moreover, it lost usable torque. 77.78ft-lb for the V4 vs 87.14ft-lb for the V2. These figures are from the same Cycle World Dyno and published online for those who want to look it up. Then there's the weight difference. 505 lbs for the 1260 Pikes Peak Vs 527 lbs for the V4 Pikes Peak which came in later. All this to say that the Mustistrada V4 should have been launched as an iteration similar to today's RS model sporting the signature Desmo engine. On this latter, the RS doesn't make much sense to me either. Again, I may get flamed for saying this but I think that the V4 engine in the Multistrada was a bad decision for a touring bike especially the Enduro version. As a result, the V4GT engine lost usable power and torque down in the low to mid RPM range where it counts and the gas consumption got worse. BMW would most likely agree as their successful GS is still a twin-cylinder. The XR is more of a Supersport IMO. It would be a bitter pill for Ducati to swallow but in a sense, I would like the Multistrada to go back as a twin, lose weight and use the RS's engine in something else.
The best selling bike for Ducati is the V4 Multi. So they probably think that they have got their business model right.
I'm not disputing that but Ducatistis don't have an alternative that competes directly with the GS other than the smaller Multi V2.
Best selling by a long way too. I think the V4 Multi was engineered as a touring bike first and foremost. I wouldn’t disagree though that it would be nice to have a more sports orientated V2 version possibly with the 950 motor re-engineered. If I was going to go back to one bike, in terms of its ethos and practicality/sporting balance then the KTM 890SMT is the one that really appeals to me.
The GS 1300 is a flat twin with a shaft drive targeting the off-roads market. I will let others chime-in if they think that either it or the Multi V4 are competition to one-another.
All they needed to do was take a small percentage of sales off the BMW GS. Clearly they’ve succeeded. In doing so however they’ve moved away from their DNA, which was producing beautiful looking bikes. I think they deliberately made the Multistrada look utilitarian, like the GS. I'm sure they could produce a beautiful looking bike that out does the GS and would sell even more. I wish they would then I’d buy into the V4. In the meantime I’m sticking with what I’ve got.
Well, I'd expect someone buying property to have a little common sense and understand they should understand the agreement they are entering and an escape route should they need to sell. Yessss, I LOVE my 1260 GT, it took 2 years of fiddling but as it is right now, I've yet to ride another bike that is even close to what the mutly can do for me. I do want to replace the wheels at some point with some forged wheels, but the prices are eye watering and there is a long list of chores to get done before I can justify the spending haha
Some years ago, whilst my 1260s Multi was in for a service I had the loan of a Panigale v4. This was around the time the Multi v4 was rumoured, I thought that Ducati were really onto something with my pre-conceived ideas of what the combination could be. The result, when the bike was launched, was aesthetically and technically on paper something of a disappointment. Undeterred I test rode a v4s Multi and whilst it was nice to ride and had that extra tech it really didn't appeal to me enough. Then there was the cost of change... Forget it. The PP version headed in the right direction but even more salty on price. Over the last five and half years my 1260 has served me well, especially with the enhancements I've added and my familiarity with the bike. It has all the performance I need, the ability to carry me and my luggage (as well as my partner when she joins me) on the numerous trips onto the continent we've enjoyed. It's stood up to all this, now 22,000 miles in, better than expected. I see no real reason to change it for anything else for the foreseeable future, Guess that makes me not an ideal Ducatista in the eyes of Ducati.
