Sgt Danny Nightingale

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by johnv, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Sgt Danny Nightingale has at no time suggested there was a legitimate justification for keeping weaponry at the flat in terms of his duties, nor that he had any kind of permission (official or unofficial) for having it. So Tom's post is pure fiction, wholly unconnected with the realities of the case.
     
  2. You're right, it's based only on my own thoughts.

    Nothing to do with Mr Nightingale's actions.
     
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  3. This is an article from an ultra-right wing website, only tenuously connected with the Nightingale case. The rather incoherent article seems to be in favour of widespread ownership and use of firearms in the UK, as in the USA.

    Sgt Nightingale has at no time suggested he was entitled to keep firearms at home for purposes of self defence, and still less has he said he intended to use them to shoot people. If he had said that, his sentence would obviously have had to be much more severe.

    The five year minimum prison term prescribed by Parliament for firearms offences is obligatory, but the courts can reduce it only in 'exceptional circumstances'. There is not much legal guidance available on what circumstances are exceptional enough, but Judge Blackett gave an example in his sentencing remarks of a highly exceptional case which justified a reduction from five years prison to three years. The sentence of the Court Martial in Nightingale's case was reduced even more to two years, to military detention instead of prison, and also suspended implying that Nightingale's circumstances are even more exceptional. The website article writer entirely fails to grasp the significance of any of this.
     
  4. so, not much different from life on the outside then...
     
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  5. Conspiracy theories aside for a minute or two...................

    ................but where can I get some of what ever Dan N is on?

    Seems to me he may have just bought himself a ticket to oblivion...............Because if its true, the grey men will rub him out or make him look an even bigger fool than he already is; or if it is false, his ex-pals aren't going to be too happy with him.
     
  6. If this is the same conspiracy theory I am thinking about you are dead right AL.
     
  7. Now the media report it was Soldier N who made the allegations...........bl**dy hell........its beginning sound as though they are all round the bend.....
     
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  8. It's all a woman's fault. Every time :smile:
     
  9. When it comes to allegations about the death of Princess Diana, in the context of Sgt Nightingale's case, the word "confabulation" springs to mind.
     
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  10. Absolutely, Pete...........
     
  11. I am told, possibly unreliably (the source is no legal walt, but his might possibly be), that the 3 matters which the DSP told the AG that he felt "represented current and future political storms" were

    1) the allegations of crimes, including murder, committed by military personnel in Iraq (~Soldier N),
    2) sexual crimes against children in Britain and elsewhere in Europe (Ian Tuckley, convicted, and John McAleese, whose extradition was sought; and some links through a small number of ex-blades doing BG work for 'personalities' to matters under investigation by Operation Yewtree)
    3) Princess Diana

    What I don't understand is why on earth so many SAS witnesses were called by the prosecution against Danny Nightingale. It can't have been to prove that he kept the Glock and ammo in the flat, which has never been disputed. Were they called to describe behaviour which indicated a mental state other than the one the defence was trying to present. Or what?

    Did Tuckley get called in the end? I know he was on the witness list.

    My source says that his source hinted that one of the above 3 points is what Sally Nightingale wanted to speak to David Cameron about for "5 minutes".
     
  12. Are you fishing for info?. Find it strange that you join this forum and this is the first post you make?

    if I'm wrong I apologise, just find it strange.
     
  13. Does anyone really believe that Mack (McAleese); considering his high profile; was really a paedo?

    I mean, Nog was hardly a member of 22 (although he would have us think he was)...........


    AL
     
  14. This is starting to read more like a John le Carre plot.
     
  15. I have no idea whether he was or wasn't, but Jimmy Savile had a higher profile and did more than possess child pornography. Some of what McAleese's daughter said about him made him sound "odd", but we're all odd in some ways and in most families there are non-criminal things going on that if outsiders come across they won't have much understanding of. Still it's weird that before he was buried, and in response to the allegations, his daughter told the press that "That man was more turned on by a gun than anything else". Of course the quote could have been made up. If he wasn't a paedophile, then there must have been people out to get him, which is what his family alleges. His friend suggests the arrest warrant for child pornography offences was issued because of a question mark over a Greek arms deal. You wonder why someone just couldn't have flown to Greece and had a chat with him.
    Not fishing, just trying to discuss stuff. No axes to grind in any direction.
     
    #495 john_c, Aug 22, 2013
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  16. At times it has been alleged on behalf of Sgt Nightingale that the packing of the Glock in Iraq, its transport to UK and unpacking were carried out by other people in his absence &/or without his knowledge. Thus the prosecution had to prove to the jury that he was responsible and knew about the Glock at all material times, which they did by calling witnesses who knew the circumstances.
     
  17. There have been several allegation of crimes including murder committed by military personnel in Iraq. Several soldiers have been put on trial for various offences, some convicted and some acquitted. I have attended the trials myself. So what? There is no reason why David Cameron would be interested in such a stale topic.
     
  18. So allegations of an offence are made against a guy, the police investigate, rapidly establish there is no substance in them, and the man is released the same day. So far so good. Then some journalist writes an idiotic piece to the effect that after a soldier has served well and bravely he should be immune from even having allegations against him investigated. And there we have it.
     
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    #499 Phill, Aug 22, 2013
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  20. Very helpful contribution
    Thanks
     
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