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Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by West Cork Paul, Feb 25, 2024.

  1. I’ve recently dropped the oil on an 8 year old, 15K mile, Pani 1199 and noticed there were flecks of something in the oil.

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    It’s only done about 1500 miles since the owner last changed the oil a year ago.

    When I pulled the filter I found this too.
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    The bits aren’t magnetic.

    Could these be from a big end shell?
     
  2. To me the bits in the filter look like swarf from a machining operation. Cleaved off by a sharp hard item like a cutting tool. I would have thought debris from a big end shell would be less uniform. Also, big end shells I am aware of (not ducati specific) are steel with a thin coating of babbit material for the bearing surface.
     
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  3. From the picture, it looks plastic.
    From my personal recent experience it doesn’t look like big end bearing material. The only two far fetched ideas I could come up with are either part of a bearing retainer or plastic from an oil container or other contamination from a previous oil change….
     
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  4. It probably isn't this but... when I was changing the oil on my 916 I emptied the waste that was captured back into the old containers. I used a funnel to avoid a mess and the funnel had a mesh filter. When I had finished I noticed a lot of oily curly bits like above which I assumed were metal that had come out the bike while draining the oil. Had a mild panic, and visions of big bills... on closer inspection the bits where black plastic and were from the oil waste container where it had been drilled/cut for the waste drain plug. Phew... :joy:
     
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  5. Doesn’t look too bad at first sight, Paul. I would be tempted to check the plastic water pump gears though.
    I think they were the same on the 1199.
     
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  6. Sort of the same color too
     
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