14 tooth front sprocket?

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by Garret, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. I am finding driving the 1098r a pain in low speed corners, taking off from traffic lights and driving in town (only when I have to!) etc....Being rattled to death, feathering the clutch a lot, high revs away from the lights wtc. I think a change to a 14 tooth front sprocket might sort out these problems.

    Any advice on doing this modification or not would be greatly appreciated.

    Many thanks

    G
     
  2. I too am thinking about this. My 916 is a tooth down on the front and that made it a lot better. I'm just waiting for the C&S to need replacing and then i'm going 14t on my 1198.
     
  3. I changed down on my 1098 and it still chugs in town anything below thirty pain in the arse :eek:
     
  4. Yup, I've geared my 1098R down the way. But as you'll be aware, it does nowt to tame the power wheelie tendancies.
     
  5. I'm one down on the front and one up on the back, it's made low speed riding much easier. You do loose a little top end but there really aren't many times you'd notice that TBH. :upyeah:
     
  6. Many thanks everybody for the advice. Garret
     
  7. I've got an 848 but changing to a 14T front sprocket is one of the best things I've done with it. I had it done at the first service while the bike was in the shop anyway so it saved me the wrestling match with the stock one, but it's a great mod to do.

    It now sits fine at town speed and I can use 6th on the motorway without having to sit at 100mph.

    I know it's an 848 compared to your 1098R, but I'd imagine the benefits will be very similar.

    Andy
     
  8. Thanks Andy. I know what you mean about using 6th. In my case, I have never seen 5th or 6th on the motorway! G

     
  9. The last time I did a wheelie, I had a GS 550 and a girl on the back of the bike. We took off too fast and flipped it. Both unharmed apart from my pride. G
     
  10. Hi Guys, have posted an intro in the newbie area but I am interested in this, actually tempted to get it done from new (so the chain and rear sprocket are new). I did 90 miles on the test ride and did think that the gearing was really really long.

    Does it make the already not amazing fuel consumption even worse?
     
  11. Fuel consumption? I dont think any of us consider fuel consumption when buying a bike so Ive never really considered it. Otherwise i'd just plump for a C90.

    I ride in France a lot. (fab country) and going to the 14 helps when riding through towns and villages. Otherwise I am in first gear tickover most of the time and it feels lumpy. When I did my 916 and then visited this made a marked difference to me. Sure its not as easy as my mates on the 600 4cyl bikes but it was a whole lot better.

    I dont mind losing top end, although my mates s1000rr now tops 200bhp, I like the punch out of corners more than anything else. I like torque and acceleration not top end and the 14t gives me more usuable bottom end sooner. IMO.
     
  12. I've just bought an 848 evo and the low speed driving is hurting the experience a bit, under 3k rpm it's horrendous, under 4k rpm it's awful over 4k rpm it's amazing !

    I'm in 2nd in 30's and 4th in 40's but it's a massive pain and stop start stuff is clutch slip all the way. I'd been thinking about bigger on the back or smaller on the front so this is a help to hear it's made the difference. I was wondering if a custom map might also help the low speed fuelling ?
     
  13. 14t on the front of an 848 is a very good mod IMO.
    Cheap as ole chipos :upyeah:
     
  14. anyone any idea of rough cost fitted ?
     
  15. Give your local dealer /bike shop a call, can't imagine it being more than an hours labour max!
    Less than £20 for the sprocket.
     
  16. I put 2 on the back...which isn't as severe as 1 off the front.

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  17. ^^^ and how has that changed the bike, specifically around that low speed riding ?
     
  18. I found the same on my 996. Below 50mph and it was a nightmare to try and ride, around town was next to impossible. Slipping the clutch and having to be in 1st or 2nd. I lost count of the number of times id be out on a run, cruising along then after a bit realise I wasnt in top gear but actually in 3rd or 4th. Mad when compared to my R1 it is silky smooth from 10mph upwards. I just stuck a talon 14T front sprocket on it, cost about £15 for the sprocket plus postage. Really easy job. Just slacken the chain off, then on my 996 you undo the 2 allen bolts holding the front sprocket cover on, then undo the 2 small bolts holding the sprocket on, remove the holding clip & sprocket slides off. I did it at the same time as a chain change, so cut the old one off and fitted a new one. If your not changing chain you may need to undo the clutch slave as it may catch on the chain.

    Difference was amazing, so much smoother, much more friendly to ride. Its still a bit of a pig at low speeds around town and I still find myself never using 6th & hardly 5th. So I could probably get away with upp`ing the back sprocket a few teeth also.
     
  19. I had it done to mine at the first service. I can't remember the cost but it was something like £35 all told. Parts, Fitting, VAT etc. all included. It's in another thread on 14T sprockets on here... I'll try and find it.
     
  20. A whole lot less feathering the clutch in traffic and a smoother experience at the low town speeds.

    But what comes off at the top end is less than what going down one at the front does.

    You'll get used to the 'characteristic's' when you stop riding it like a jil4 tho.

    http://www.gearingcommander.com/
     
    #20 XxAnthxX, Sep 9, 2013
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