Just throwing this out there as Ive been thinking about the Multis again alongside a couple of KTM's I have in mind. So originally when the S / touring came out everybody thought that'd be the better buy for 2nd hand resale values due to the tech. But over time I've seen various issues occur with the Multis which although I'm aware not all get affected (you generally only hear the bad on forums), it does conjur certain worries about buying any Multi 1200s 2nd hand and out of warranty as some of the electronics/suspension problems sound very very expensive to fix. For me the bike doesn't have to have the fancy electronic suspension, I think I'd be more than happy just having the TC and modes and then I'd just get the suspension set up for me, if that means a new spring/shock and fork internals I'm fine with that as it'd be at least tailored to my weight etc. additionally that is something I could throw money at over time and wouldn't need the upfront cash. I guess what im trying to attain here is are there some on going issues that affect all multi 1200's? im not bothered about surging etc as to be honest I'd expect that from any ducati until fettled and tuned, its just the way it is. I mean more fundamental problems that would cost a lot of money to fix and ones that would also affect even the abs models? Engine, clocks, forks, ecu ..... That kinda of thing. also I presume some issues are only applicable to certain years, I'd assume the newest I'd get would be 2011/12 but would even consider a low mileage 2010 as long as I know what things 'could' occur.
I bought a 2011 s that has done 15000 miles, just had the heads replaced, I also looked at a mint 2010 s that had only done 3000 miles, that had the suspension ecu fault, it seems to be a bit hit and miss, but I would not like to own one without a decent warranty!
Thanks, again it's just unlucky stories like this that'd put me off buying an S or touring. Although I presume the heads would of needed work even if it was an abs model? Is that simply a mileage thing? If so do you mind sharing the cost?
Only you can decide the +'s and -'s but i will say that the suspension on the base abs model is very good. A lot better than the Speed Triple i had before and i reckon for most riding you wouldn't really notice much benefit from the Ohlins kit.
Have you got an abs then ? any problems, electrical or otherwise? like I mentioned on the opening post most things I read are related to the S or touring, neither am I interested in as the differences aren't useful to me and like you've said I think the stock suspension will be more than fine for touring. i just can't seem to find anything related to the abs models unless its the same electrical gremlins across all models
Mine is a 2013 bike. I have had no issues to date but then i have only done 2500 miles so far. It really is the do-it-all bike that Ducati claim it to be.
Had a 2010 bike and just traded in, it had the clocks and heads replaced under warranty, others have had no problems I think its like any second hand item (or new) can have a problem and you only hear about those and not about the bikes that are fault free.
Heads again? Do we know if that was a problem known specifically to 2010 bikes or what it would cost out of warranty? Also do we know how much the clocks are and what exactly the problem is and if there's a DIY fix?
Certainly 2010 and up until they identified it was a problem (heads), so maybe some 2012's? Out of warranty, I understand it would be c.£3,500? Thankfully I had extended to 3 years which just covered mine. As it is a known fault, I would be surprised if Ducati didn't make healthy contributions though, even out of warranty?
crikey! thats something I'd need assurances over then before even considering one 2nd hand. are there other 'known' flaws that ducati are aware of? i mean surely if they know about this stuff but won't honour any 2nd hand sale then it kinda kicks the arse out of the 2nd hand values of these bikes? It's all very well somebody spending 12-15k on a multi 1200 but when they come round to sell it after 2 years and they're asking 9-12k 2nd hand with no warranty then it starts to look far too expensive. Has there been a list compiled on regular faults? I've tried looking but can't find a definitive list, just post after post about random electrical faults, this is the first ive heard of the heads though. id like to consider a multi but I'm only thinking 2nd hand and even then your looking £8500-£9000 for low mileage abs models, still a hefty price to pay on something which could cost you huge money any minute
Another thing is the slave cylinder on the clutch. That can stick and cause a loss of drive. Happened to a mate of mine, when we were on a trip to Scotland, earlier this year. His is a 2010, non ohlins one
Sounds like your at odds with whats controlling your purchase, your head or your heart. A battle we all come up against :smile: . I don't think there is a single bike out there that does not have flaws. All you can do is risk mitigation and ultimately any second hand purchase is a leap of faith. Much of what you say is generalisation based on an internet vocal demographic that is always biased towards complaint. Find a bike you like , speak to the seller and go from there is my suggestion. That way you will get specific and pertinent information about THE bike your buying. Ask the right questions, check all the history and pre-armed with your homework you can work out what is going to work for you. Beyond that you would need a crystal ball
Mines 4 months out of warranty (20,000 mile Sport T.)and has just had new clocks (on/off neutral light)and a new rear brake master cylinder and hoses FOC; back brake now adequate! As mentioned else where read up on the Sale of Goods Act if major parts/electrics start going south if the bike is only a few years old and has been serviced in accordance with the manual. Engine cases both sides and rad replaced under warranty a few months ago; flaking paint and cracked rad. Would I buy another one if mine disappeared tomorrow.........yes is my answer. Not ready for a GS yet :biggrin:
Think it's horses for courses to be honest - there's good and bad examples on all models. One of the reason I chose an ABS was down to the electronics etc. If it helps any have a 2010 ABS which has just clocked up 30k km pretty much trouble free. Planning to chop it in for another one beginning of next year probably.........
The clock issue on mine started with condensation during the winter I think there was a thred that someone started on repairs (can't remember what company they were talking to) but it looks like the condensation gets into the internal connections causing leakage paths that bring up errant indications. The fault can be lived with and is a minor irritation I haven't heard of any catastrophic failures with the clocks.
Thats comforting to hear at least, thanks I presume that still covers 2nd hand purchases as long as all servicing is kept up to date?
All that said, I used mine to tour the manx festival last week, fully loaded with pillion, enjoyed charging over the mountain, managed to negotiate back via a gridlocked m6 which was so packed the filtering took well over an hour, again fully loaded, then did a track event at snetterton yesterday, even with all the faults, it's the best bike I have ever owned
damodici as long as the bike is serviced as per the schedule and no back street mods to it have happened then The Sale of Goods Act applies as far as I'm aware. My left hand (replaced) engine cover has started flaking already and it's only a few months old as was replaced due to bubbling paint on the original one. This will get changed AGAIN after Crimbo free of charge at my dealers.
I have had a used 2010 touring s for the last six months or so. It'd had quite a bit done under warranty before I owned it (heads+more). I've put about 3k miles on it and had no major issues. I had the big 15k service done and it came in at lower cost than I expected. I love the bike and don't regret buying it for a second. I am touching a very large lump of wood. Mrs.
