Surely scrutineering is opening a can of worms? If something happens that was missed then who is going to get blamed? The scrutineer or the guy who owns the bike and should check it himself? I was blamed a few weeks ago for a gear lever falling off a bike that I had worked on. I had never been near it so surely it was the owners full responsibility to check his bike over before going on track.
Wonder if the poor guy got anything when he had both his bikes flattened a moment after wheeling them out of his van, by someone else’s van handbrake failing when we were at Brands a couple of weeks ago?
I live 2 hours from Brno and one hour from Most and bounce between them through the year. Awesome tracks.
Good point forgot about that - wonder what the liability is there as that must of been an insured road legal van so didnt think about it in terms of hitting uninsured track bikes. Still amazes me how calm he was as I wouldnt of been!
With the offending van being on private land, the underwriter will, most likely, decline any claim. Andy
No different to a supermarket car park. Last time I was at Brands there was no control over who drove in or out including right up to the pits.
Different issue as your insurance is still valid on private land so you’d claim against him. Expect lots of questions tho!!! Edited: same as if someone ran over your expenses push bike
@Expat Jack, @bradders, can’t be arsed to go looking back to where this was discussed a few days ago but there is no legislation or legal precedent (since Brexit) to force underwriters to pay claims for incidents on private land unless specifically insured against. Absolute minefield. Andy
Not sure where you’ve seen that but it would be interesting. As Jack says, you can (and I have claimed) for accident damage via my policy for damage created when the vehicle. Is on private land. Otherwise you would never, ever be able to claim for anything in any car park or drive if it wasn’t named in your policy. The reason they won’t pay out for a taxi crash is they explicitly don’t exclude damage under those on track circumstances. Note most also exclude rallies: but many don’t realise when they do these on-road rallies (time trial things) that they are potentially uninsured
My memory has just kicked in and it was about insurance and being on private land like riding the ABR enduro course. Not sure if the third party liability might be invoked. Andy
Yup. Riding a bike on any off road circuit on private land and you won’t be covered. But causing an accident in a private car park with a road legal and insured vehicle, fill your boots.
44T click bait, they get paid by views. Track days are safer than they have ever been, the bikes are generally better, tyres better, safety equipment (leathers/armour/airbags) better. People are riding 200+ hp machines, what do you expect. Been doing track days for 25+ years. In the 90s they were very rock and roll compared to today, there were more organisers and less safety briefings/warning/nags. In the 90s and 00s we didn't FB and other social media, there was barely forums, all wonderful places to moan and vent spleens about perceived failings. What happens now is people jump on their favourite echo chamber (Facebook/TDA) and amp up the frenzy. Heck, you have brake guards, back protectors and virtually one piece suits are mandatory now. It's a nanny state, but risk is impossible to eliminate in motorsport. With Classic Bike Track Days here now, focusing on pre 1998 bikes, they are getting back to track day roots. Done 2 years of classics on my XR69 and they're awesome. 18" tyres, no traction control, no slipper clutches, no blippers, no quick shifters, no 6 axis EMUs. It's so wonderful.
I think it’s a combination of many factors: Running cost for the day, the ticket, tyres, fuel, transport, overnight stay etc. Age, there just aren’t younger riders coming through and those that are can’t afford/want a superbike. Trends, superbikes/race reps just aren’t as popular as they used to be and they are all £20+k so understandably if you can only afford one bike people want it to do more than be a one trick pony. prospect of writing off said £20-40k superbike.
Cheer up all, by 2035 internal combustion engines will be illegal, your mate down the pub will know someone who can get a litre to two of the golden petrol stuff off a bloke he knows, at £25 a litre, and we will be paying 98% income tax to fund the welfare system. Enjoy today while you can.
