i have a set of blackstone tecs and have absolute confidence in them. I guess the day I stop posting will be the proof in the pudding moment lol.
rickyx what do you do I currently work in the aerospace sector but suspect its not anything like your role. you a lab rat or aircraft tec.... (and no lol - i do not work at wh smiths in departures !!!)
Neither really. I am head of structures engineering at Virgin Atlantic. We ensure the structural integrity of the 40 Boeing and Airbus aircraft that we operate by providing structure repair designs and definition of maintenance requirements. My background is aircraft structural stress analysis (maths detention basically!) so I now apply the knowledge that I have to looking after the big buses so everybody has a nice safe journey to Disneyland! i only get my hands dirty "for fun" working on my bikes! R
Interesting, regardless of who works where or what your experience may be may I say I think it's unfair to comment given one you are not Dymag and two you do not know the construction details of the wheel unless or course you've been behind the scenes? For all you know the plate may not play a role in the overall strength of the wheel. It may look far worse than it is...? Id wait for Dymag to comment on the what's and whys. Also I take my hat off to them for even entertaining repairing the wheel. I run BST wheels and have no problem in trusting the company or the knowlage of the materials used. IF I had a problem with my wheels the only people I would be interested in hearing from would be BST. No disrespect to those who may and prob do have experience in such matters but as I say unless you know the full details and construction of the wheel how can you comment? Im sure the experts in your fields would understand that certain manufacturing secrets so to speak could be confused and unknown factors in such could lead to inaccurate descriptions of a product that may lead to false or inaccurate assumptions?
Fair point, perhaps I was a bit hasty. I was mainly commenting from my experience in my industry regarding the principal that corrosion can occur on alloy parts that are not adequately isolated from carbon fibre parts. I agree that I have no detailed knowledge of the construction of the wheel hub interface, therefore I will modify my original comment to: "the design MAY be flawed, depending on the detail of the materials and processes used in the joint between the CFRP and Alloy hub..." Apologies for any misunderstandings. R
Hay mate no problem at all your input is highly respected by myself, I just wanted to voice the unknown factors and would like to hold faith in it being a rare failure of the wheel as opposed to a design flaw on Dymags part, I fully understand how distressing such a failure could be on Matts part and can only hope that they reinstate confidence in the wheels to him when the replacement is fitted. Id also understand IF he were to chuck in the towel on carbon fibre wheels... On a vote of confidence when you look at the range of car, bike, racing etc etc etc carbon wheels they produce you'd hope that they will have a full explanation when the investigation is complete. No harm in speculating what may have been the cause I for one would agree with the possibilities of carbon electrolysis being the cause of the failure.
personally i would think, once bitten twice shy and avoid carbon wheels. i remember back in the Ducatisti days there were regular discussions about the pros and cons of carbon wheels, as there is often about magnesium wheels....bikes are fkn dangerous enough as it is... i had a swingarm shatter on me once..very scary..At least Matts' ok..it could have been very nasty, possibly death. If a company has taken over another one, such as in the case, then imho the new company has a moral duty to assume responsibility. theyve taken the other company on with all the good, bad and ugly that that implies. FOC replacements should be the very least. Someone has to be responsible. It shouldnt be up to Joe Punter..Matt wasnt responsible for the company folding and bought the (very expensive) wheels in good faith. If someone purchased, say, the TVR brand, then they take ownership of everything that means...so if they discover one day that there is a fatal flaw in the chassis of a particular model, they should be duty bound to rectify it...the person who is certainly not at fault is the innocent owner. The purchaser of the company would certainly be happy to make a profit from their acquisition, so they must take the rough with the smooth. If you believe a companies bottom line is more important than the safety of customers old and new lets see how charitable you feel when someone you love ends up in a wheelchair due to some manufacturing fault or other, either in a vehicle they own, or the one whose brakes failed and mowed them down in the street. Lives before profit. This could have killed Matt. He deserves new wheels at the very least. Best of luck to you mate.
incidentally, ive been on the dymag site and others selling their products and there is not a single mention of this failure...if this isnt public knowledge in 24hours Matt, i would contact them and every motorcycle publication in the UK.
The new company is just that, a new company. If every new company was responsible for all that had gone on in the past under different management no one would ever start a new business.
Except when it purchases an old company. tough titty im afraid. they were aware of Dymags business, and know that wheels are safety critical. no one forcesd the compny to purchase Dymag. Due diligence and all that.. Suppose Matt was severely injured? What sort of defence is, "But M'Ludd, we're a new company, how can be responsible for for the company that we own?". i understand your point obviously...new management, different design team etc...but that is of secondary importance to the safety of customers..you know, the people yopu actually BUY the products..without them, and with a "F..You' attitude from companies, then an existing business would fold.... Whatever fiscal arrangements are made behind the scenes, the safety of the customers should NEVER EVER be compromised... Is your swing arm collapsed and you were paralysed what would your attitude be if Ducati said.."Sorry mate, we're owned by Audi..not the same company..this is a new company"..not a great a example i know, but you get the picture.
It wasn't bought from the old company as i understand it. Dymag went bust. A new company formed, its the whole basis on how limited liability companies work.
No, because that's a change of ownership of an existing company. Ducati has not closed, gone out of business, into receivership or whatever. It all depends on what they have bought from the defunct company called Dymag that closed down. Was it just the name? Did they purchase the designs also? Did they take on the liabilities? What they have and haven't got will all be defined as part of the legal proceedings of the purchase, but it's nowhere near as clear cut as you'd like to think it is.
