Tail tidy on mine is a Moto Dynamic item with Ducati performance indicators,I had to modify the indicators to fit and glue them in place
sorry, no I wasn’t referring to how good they were just that they updated the range at different times but the brutale was priced high relative to the f3 for ‘lesser’ spec components, not saying any of us really need them. also, slightly off topic but I think MV should have fitted a better rear shock to their bikes and a steering damper, it’s one of the differentiators between them and most of the Ducati range
yeah i agree on the first point, and yes the rear shock on the brut is harsh and appears hard to tweak for any kind of comfort on the mostly farm roads around me, but the RR's do have a steering damper. its the first time ive had one on any bike, and first time ive had a quick shifter, and i am totally sold on both. perhaps i should be thinking of going for an R really as they come with the ohlins damper which looks great. is there any ergo difference between the R and the S does anyone know?
Whether you should change depends on your most important criteria. My opinion is that the Brutale is far better looking, cheaper, and actually more understated than a big V2 with an apocalyptic exhaust. However, if you like the monster and want to make a change and you can afford it, then you should.
I have a R and i think it is a fantastic bike , the R has not got a QS but the S has , the R has higher spec Ohlins (That is what i have read ) also the R has 160BHP compared to the S with 145BHP ,also the R has different frame geometry to enable lower lean angle ,which means it has a higher seat height
Having owned an MV and had the experience I don't think, despite the temptations, I'd return to the marque unless there was a significant improvement in dealer support. Added to which the residuals I found were pretty awful. Granted I did over 18,000 miles in just over two years. Completely loved the bike but three separate failures on one European trip (there were plenty of other issues prior) were just too much and it had to go. Something of a petulant mistress...
its a really tricky one, i did a lot of reading so i knew i needed to talk to the forum for MV and i knew i needed a black engine bike from after 2015. actually they are very solid, but lack of local dealers and experts can be a factor. I'm quite happy to go back to ducati for a while but i still see a black 2015 dragster rr in my future at some point, they are pretty special to ride.
If I had the space, money and time I would have maybe kept the Turismo. Except I was buying the 1260 Multi that is effectively the same concept with more of everything (including weight). I would say that MV ownership should ideally include another bike for when the MV is off the road. That's more down to things like spares availability and dealer network than outright reliability though.
Despite the similarities in concept as well, to a certain extent, appearance, the riding experience is different. The Turismo was lighter and had knife edge handling by comparison. The latter point is something of a negative with the 1260 Multi until you're two up with luggage, at the end of a long tiring day of twisty mountain riding or needing to do a day of autoroute. The Turismo being on the edge of 'flighty', whilst the 1260 Multi is more stable and planted. Note that the 1260 has a longer swingarm compared to the earlier 1200 DVT, added to make it more stable. The power delivery, and obviously quantity thereof, differs too. The triple being more a more balanced and revy engine, the v twin is lazier in relative terms. The torque of the Ducati is a big plus. There are advantages to both, the only regret with the Turismo was the depreciation and the electrical reliability. There were quite a few advantages too; great solo tourer (especially when it gets twisty), exclusivity, attention to detail in terms of design. As to being happy with my 1260; I managed to kill it last summer in an accident in France. I bought it in 2018 and at 25,000 miles it was a keeper,i had no intentions to change it. So much so that I bought another last October. This time I went for a 1260 Pikes Peak. Haven't had the time to fully fettle the manual Ohlins suspension yet but suffice to say it's an improvement over the Skyhoook on the old bike albeit without the push button convenience. I would say, that in my case at least, that's testament to me being happy with the 1260 Multistrada
Thanks for this! I swapped the brutale for the 1200s, and on the 2.5 hour ride home I realised I had swapped a smooth engine for more comfy shocks and seat. The two bikes are remarkably similar in almost every way that matters, but comfort has a value to me
im totally sold on the spark dual gp pipes and there are a lot of stickers to remove, but once its in its final form ill put one up! i need to figure out a tail tidy and some spacing to get a 7x5 plate between the pipes i think. its also annoying that the seat back doesnt sit against the light on the later model i have - on all the pics of 14/15/16 theres no gap, im trying to work out why that is. anyone know about that?
when you next have a moment, any chance you could tell me how much space there is between the pipes? trying to work out if a 7x5 would fit in there... will worry about the indicators later i have about 3 weeks until my spark pipes turn up and i cant wait!
wow my 7" plate is gonna be close then! perhaps i can get away with some spacers for the cans and shaving a bit off the edges of the plate so it sits between. thank you for checking for me. how loud are they? at the moment i have some kind of cheap aftermarket one on, from SP Engineering who i have never heard of. it has a baffle but it looks like no cat as the cat seems to be in the stock pipe (its like they knew!). do you have both baffles in and do your neighbours suffer cardiac events at similar times to you leaving for work?
No problem,I run both baffles in,it not quiet but in my opinion not offensively loud,my mate has a Hypermotard with an SC Project can on it,that makes a racket! I guess you could scallop out some of you number plate if you have room before the numbers start
