Mc Test / Right Foot Up?

Another bike once shunted me from behind. My rear brake made no difference, as I was punted over the handlebars—despite the relatively low speed involved. Maintaining steering was a moot point.

Now I’m more wary of being taken by surprise from behind

 

This is all decades old, so take with a pinch of ass . . . .

I can't remember wot I did on my bike test, but very soon after I took my IAM test - primarily to try to stop my Mum from worrying, so my Dad would lend me more money for a bigger bike

My IAM test was done by a Police motorcyclist on a Police bike. It was good as no other road users dared give me any shit, when he was following! Although I passed, this guy did give lots of help and advice. He told me to stop and put my left foot down covering the rear brake with my right foot. I think that is right for a bike with right-hand brake lever and would help with hill starts and suchlike. IMO racers know shit-all about safe road riding. When racing with a clutch start, both feet are down and depending on the track, it could be quarter of a mile before both feet are up. There is also this bollocks habit of skimming the inside foot on bends going on. On the road a sure-fire way of crashing after breaking your ankle!!!!

 

I think you may be referring to ‘the doctors dangle’ so called after Rossi, as he was (I think) the first racer using the technique. To do with weight transfer/balance on corner entry. Though I sometimes wonder if it also puts other racers off the idea of passing up the inside. He did like mind games with other riders..
There would be a load of places where you would be happier not covering the rear brake, such as when stopped on a gravel drive or road, as one foot down could lead to the foot slipping, followed by bike. On the road, with other traffic behind, I can see the logic.
Again, application of brain.

 

The problem I now have is a fecked left leg and hip. I am trying to change and put my right foot down at lights, etc, with no worry about using the rear brake to hold the bike.

BUT

The point made above about slipping into neutral when stopped, I agree with - especially on a dry plate Ducati!!!

And this caused one of my many rows with a driving instructor, when I took some lessons to polish up my halo for my driving assessment. This was when DVLA disagreed with the Police, the Courts, the other side, and vowed that I had to be made to suffer ffor having the sheer rudeness to have a crash on a motorbike that ws bot my fault.

As I hadn't driven anything for about two years, I thought it a good idea to have some refreshers for driving a car properly - for it had now become all about car driving.

One of the many things we argued about was he told me (and it may well be so) that if you are first at a red light, UNDER NO CICUMSTANCE DO YOU PUT IT IN NEUTRAL AS YOU MUST BE READY FOR A RACING STTART THE MINUTE (NO, THE SECOND) THAT THE LIGH TURNS GREEN! i WAS LIKE, "What's the big rush?" but he felt it better to knacker out the clutch, so you are reasy in first, in order to sprint away, the moment the light turns green. This was on the A

 

Try a fast get away with a stop-start system and auto…not happening. It HAS to depend on the duration of lights.
We have a set of lights here that take close 90 seconds. I will not be sitting with the motorcycle in gear.

 

I was mid-posting and everything went tits up, so you got spellings and other shit.

Anyway . . .

The conclusion is to avoid driving instructors and having the sheer bare-assed cheek of having a motorcycle accident causing serious injury. No matter whose fault, the motorcyclist will come off worse and the DVLA won't be able to contain themselves in making your already damaged life, worse. MUCH WORSE!

AND . . . . Riders of Bristol have a V2 demonstrator. I will go and have a gander some time and I'm gonna keep my KTM for a few years, but when I get this quarter of million or so (and it's not my compensation money) in three or four years or so, I will get a V2 Pani!

 

I think its called the Hendon shuffle.
Select Neutral left foot down cover the rear brake with right foot, as lights change, right foot down left foot up select first swap feet to cover rear brake for hill start then pull away.

all bollocks for the test then forget it for day to day riding

 

It is indeed known as the Hendon Shuffle but IME, the foot you choose to put down has several factors that affect the decision so “it depends”. I’m fortunate in being tall and have large hands so which foot I put down is immaterial and whatever it is “correct”, I can pull and release my front brake and roll the throttle at the same time. It works for me so it’s correct for me Andy

 

[QUOTE="Atomic Monkey, post: 2232907, member: 45546”].....do what the examiner is looking for during the test then go back to being safe and confident and what works best. …....[/QUOTE]

This ^^

 

The Hendon shuffle has long-since been outdated. “We haven’t taught that in years,” was the comment given to me during my advanced training.

 

The name is maybe a throwback to Police training?

 

Hendon was (and may still) the police training college. Roadcraft, the police motorcycle training manual, still requires the officer to select neutral if stationary for any length of time. In the old days that was left down whilst the right foot selects neutral, then swap to put your left foot on the rear brake. When you need to select first gear, swap over again, hence coining the term “shuffle”. Andy

 

Do you have to spin yourself to face backwards to get your right foot on the gears, or are you hopping off to the left of the bike then hopping over the other side for left foot on the brakes? Either way, it certainly lives up to the name shuffle

 

You are obviously a young person, British police motorcycles used to have the gear change on the right. Andy

 

Yes but that wouldn’t be as funny would it