they'd be just as well rolling it in gary glitter for all the good it'll do them. A £70k Ducati and they have to sell 2000 of them? Good luck with that, especially as Honda are releasing the GP tech inspired V4 at a similar price.
I don't think it'll be anywhere near £70k....they'll never sell any at that price.....my guess is more like £35-40k!
how come there is one gsxr 1000, one yamaha yzf r1, one zx10 etc with new models every 2 years... no base model. no gsxr S or gsxr R. just one model. how can ducati keep homologating new models to manipulate the regulations. I don't t mean this to sound negative. but is it one rule for the Japanese and the italians have free reign..??? or do the Japanese just get it more right lol as I dont see them rushing to homologate new models. are the ducatis subject to more stringent regs ??
I can see the need for Ducati to move away from the trellis frame and under-seat exhausts but the replacement for a successful range of motorcycles also needed to be a success. In what seems like a rush to copy the (old) Japanese way of a new model every four years with an update every two, they lost the plot. Another year of development may have made a big difference to the Panigale in WSBK.
I think there is always going to be a problem finding the equivalence between 2 cylinders and 4. Sometimes the regs work in Ducati's favour and sometimes they don't. Racing twins against fours puts you at an inherent disadvantage as more smaller pistons flow more gas and produce more power for a given capacity. That is important in racing, not so important on the road where more torque and low end stomp at the low end of the rev range is highly desirable. In racing you don't really use the low end of the rev range. So Ducati have always had to work harder, hence the exotic R versions. There wouldn't be anything preventing the other factories doing the same - and they have done in the past with things like the Yam OW01 and there was a GSXRR thing too. But they still have to shift those units to be eligible for WSBK. At the moment, they just don't need something that exotic to be competitive - cf Sykes.
With those specs , i can't see it being below 70K euros ... the mag swingarm and Ti frame must be 10K in itself... and if the rest is like the RS but without the Marelli electronics, that would make it 110K.... so take the R 32K, add the WSBK suspension and brakes + 20K and another 10 for SSSA and frame = 60K minimum
It will be pricey I reckon. Ducati have been asking D16 owners if they would like to pre-register interest to be in with a chance of buying a 'very special' bike that is coming.
No titanium in WSBK From http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/6510004_eng.pdf 2.3.1 Materials The use of titanium in the construction of the frame, the front forks, the handlebars, the swing arms, the swing arm spindles and the wheel spindles is forbidden. For wheel spindles, the use of light alloys is also forbidden. The use of titanium alloy nuts and bolts is allowed.
Hi Guys, Although I own three Dukes, I'm not an anorak when it comes to the specs, particularly of the modern Superbikes. BUT, I went on the Ducati Factory and Museum visit last week and the final bike that we were shown as we were leaving the factory was a 'New 1199 Panigale RR Limited Edition'. We were told that only about 120 or so would be made for connoisseurs and that the price tag would be some 64 thousand Euros (about £53,500 currently). I have to say it did look beautiful and very trick. I did open my wallet there and then and offer the nice lady guide 5 Euros, but for some reason she just smiled and politely declined - go figure?! :biggrin: Hope this may be of interest to all you Panigale nuts! By the way, if you ever do get the chance to go to the Museum and Factory it's the best 10 Euros you could spend!
so i guess it could not be used in WSBK then if there are only 120 made. or is 120 bikes enough for a homologation model? henk!!!
Quantity rules for WSBK homologation are (currently) 1.2.1 Homologations for Superbike, Supersport and Superstock. A manufacturer that requests homologation for a motorcycle for Superbike, Supersport or Superstock, must observe the following rules: • The manufacturer must have produced at least a quantity of 125 motorcycles prior to the homologation inspection (this number may be adjusted upwards in 2013, for 2014 models). The motorcycle must be on sale to the public at that time. • The minimum quantity of 500 units must be reached by the 30th June of the current year. • The minimum quantity of 1000 units must be reached by the 31st of December of the current year. • The minimum quantity of 2000 units must be reached by the 31st of December of the following year.
I thought there was one rule for the large manufacturers and a different quantity rule for the smaller ones. Which one is this? Or did they do away with that difference when Ducati won everything for years and years?
