Can't find neutral!!!!

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by rotaxracer, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Hi all, having a real problem finding neutral when bike is cold, it needs too much foot pressure to move the gear change and then you end up clicking thru to 1st or 2nd depending on what your doing! Once the bike is warmed up its better.

    I had a service done about 300 miles ago when they changed the clutch slave for an Oberon one, nothing to do with this problem just wanted a lighter lever action. I have been back and their tech guy had a test ride and he said there was no problem, I left it with them so she was cold. When I went to collect Mutley the service manager said it could be the fact that they had changed oil suppliers from Putoline to Motul and to give it a bit longer. I jumped on the bike and immediately couldn't find neutral!

    Its really worrying me now, bike is just out of warranty and has done 9000 miles, it's a 10 plate MTS touring with full service history.

    Any ideas? Regards.
     
  2. I had some problems with this on my 848 EC SE. At the last service I got the dealer to look at it and it has been sorted. Had no problems since.

    Get it back to the dealer!
     
  3. Gear lever position? Have you had Ducatis before...they can be a little tough to find neutral at times
     
  4. most ducatis love neutral. .!
    even when your hammering it and grabbing 3rd at 90mph leant over a little the bikes sometimes think neutral is a better choice :eek:
     
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  5. They don't have one ;-)
    Unless you don't want one then they appear like buses 
     
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  6. Inability to select neutral is invariably due to the clutch dragging. It may be because of reduced lift by the Oberon slave cylinder but I doubt it. It's usually due to air in the hydraulic line. Take it back to the dealer and ask them to re-bleed the system paying attention to get all the air out at the master cylinder beed screw.
     
  7. +1

    Get it on a paddock stand and put it in 1st with the clutch lever pulled in.
    You will probably find the back wheel rotates almost as though you have not got the lever pulled in, which shows the clutch isn't disengaging properly; probably air in the system after the fitted the new slave...

    P.S. A little bit of wheel rotation when on the stand and the clutch pulled in isn't that unusual - but if it's going round like a goodun that's your problem.
     
  8. See I knew you guys would come up with some ideas! I check all of them and let you know what happens! I love this forum!
     
  9. That would piss me off as Ducati recommend Shell oils. I want what the manufacturer recommends when the bike is under warranty. Allow them as little wriggle room as possible.
     
  10. Bullsh1t detector is flashing......ask them to put the right oil in AND sort the problem!
     
  11. If you're used to riding a Rotax (as your username suggests), that might well be the problem. The last 2 Rotaxs I rode (BMW 650 and a CCM) ended up with bent gear levers from kicking the fuck out of them to get them to go into (and stay in) gear.
     
  12. Hi Doodle, my Rotax roots from 4 wheels! I raced Rotax Max karts for a few years and then I saw the error of my ways and got on to two wheels! A bit of an update on the neutral issues, as Derek said the Oberon cylinder appears to require extra lever movement to fully disengage the clutch, I guess it has to do with fluid ratios to give a lighter action at the lever. I have ASV levers fitted so I wound the lever out a bit more and on the stand it appeared to be better.

    I will give her a full road test at the weekend and update you all.
     
  13. Hi all, well it was as Derek said due to the Oberon cylinder requiring a longer lever travel! At least it wasn't anything more sinister, the engine oil was a bit of a red herring having the slave cylinder and a service done at the same time was just coincidence. Thank for all your suggestion and replies.
     
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