Like when JB said of Rossi "the rider isn't riding hard enough to get meaningful data" What does Uccio do if noT provide motivation and hold the drinks cup?
The more i hear the details the more i see VR logic, not saying i like it though. I don't like the treatment of JB and i'm sure it could have been handled differently and JB's role changed without losing face..... but As i understand it, Yamaha asked VR if he would stay in the team beyond 2014. Rossi said not unless he was more of a podium threat and he had explored most avenues to achieve that. The only variable they had not explored was that of JB and maybe the strategy was letting him down. It is suggested rossi's brake issues in Motegi might have been due to a strategy that failed miserably. So this is the last role of the dice. If the results are no better VR knows he has found his limit and will have to accept that. Or he could have been super loyal to JB and always wondered what if. A tough call to make when JB has given such loyalty to VR but racers are driven people and points make prizes. It's business especially for Yamaha at the end of the day and i would also not be suprised if Linn Jarvis may have sowed some seeds. Ben Spies hinted very strongly that the guy was ruthless and underhand when he had to be. Plus we only know what they allow us to know and i'm sure there is more to this than we will ever know.
Makes more sense than most of the comments on here IMHO. Having made up his mind I think VR did 'the right thing'. He told JB in person as soon as he could. In reality he wouldn't be doing anyone any favours by waiting - including JB. Business is business and racing is racing. End of. Next season will be very interesting indeed!
First off, Rossi is 34. That's hardly ancient, I was a hell of a lot stronger and more single-minded at 34 than I was at 24. Secondly, to get to the top you've got to be selfish, you have to believe in yourself above all else. Thirdly, not enough credit is given to Lorenzo, Marquez and Pedrosa for just how slow they're making everyone else look. Rossi is trying to rebuild his empire, a great empire it has to be said, and if he doesn't succeed he is going to look very stupid indeed. But I reckon the one person who won't lambast him is Jeremy Burgess. He knows the score. Racers by law have to have an ego the size of their swollen gonads. All the great racers have been unapproachable, self-satisfying, egotistical tosspots. Except for the ever-friendly British contingent - the ones who don't win... If you think Lorenzo or Marquez (or Edwards or Hayden for that matter) would be any different you are seriously mistaken. They are all world class racers because of their single-minded fuck anyone else approach. It comes with the territory. Look at the Fogarty thread on this here forum. What an absolute wanker he was. Til he retired of course, now he's okay. That's exactly what you have to be to stay at the top. Only the British struggle with this concept.
More here Valencia MotoGP: Rossi, Burgess discuss shock 2014 split | Page 1 | MotoGP News | Nov 2013 | Crash.Net Asked about the timing of the announcement, Rossi replied: “I made the decision last week and I didn't want to stay one weekend with Jeremy knowing this inside me and not say it to him. I'm not able to work like this so the first time I saw him I had to say it to him.” Burgess added: “I prefer how this happened and think that it was a far better way to do it rather than showing up on Sunday night and just saying 'Ciao it's all over'.”
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Like leaving for Ducati, this is another mistake by Rossi. Who is better than JB? Who knows what suits Rossi better than JB? What more motivation does Rossi need than his salary and the records he is in touching distance of? I don't think age is an issue. Capirex was older than Rossi is now when he could have one the title in 2006. When of course, in the last race at Valencia old man Bayliss showed them all the way round. It's simple. He is getting beaten because he is not the best. There are no more magic tyres....but a control tyre. No more qualifying 15th and then winning because he has the same tyre as everyone else. He has a team mate with the same bike and more talent. With Edwards, and I will quote his words here, he " didn't have a factory bike in the factory team". Figaro says, no one gives the others credit. I say Tossis been found out. Biaggi, Gibernau all just as good, they just didn't play the media so well. They weren't feted "as the saviour of GP" as if it needed one. People will still watch the way they watch the automatons in F1. Pretty much all of them boring bar maybe Vettel and Raikkonen. though funnily enough,?Vettel gets the "Stoner treatment" for racing as fast as he can and leaving everyone for dust. He is an amusing bloke but most people hate him because be wins a lot. Moto GP created a monster in giving Rossi a platform to become a legend, generate a huge fanbase, income stream and viewing figures. All for money. That platform has long gone, and his record since 07 is nothing like it was when the control tyre went. Coincidence maybe, but I think not. Sad state of affairs when people believe their own hype and forget who put them where they are.......JB for one
So Rossi haters too, wait let me guess bet most hated Stoner too, think many of the comments are based on hate. Rossi made a decision for whatever reason, if it helps his head he will go faster, what do people know on here, JB may have lacked motivation, Rossi may feel this and need a fresh tech with new motivated ideas etc, who knows... Tell you what maybe he should sign up to Ducatiforum and all the experts can help him out....lol Now that's funny! Or get fig to ride it, he seems to talk the talk, hay fig? Oh and your buddy funk can hold the cup...lol
Oh dear, got under your skin, have we..? Careful now; go down this route and you'll end up bitter and twisted and resorting to name-calling like 749er there...
Maybe JB had to go, but why didn't Rossi just have a quiet word and say "time to retire mate", instead of making a show of it? Smacks of desperation and a lack of respect to me.
Magnanimous to the very end, legendary crewchief Jeremy Burgess didn't throw Valentino Rossi or anyone else involved in his firing under the bus today when speaking with the press at Valencia. Burgess admitted that what had happened had "blindsided" him, but that he isn't holding a grudge. "I think everybody has to make decisions that they think, in their life, are going to be better for them. We're not here to appease everybody. He's here to do a job. He thinks that he can, and I believe also that perhaps this is a good move. If it re-ignites a spark that he needs to find himself, then the job has been a success," Burgess said. more Soup :: A Class Act :: 11-08-2013
Why don't we have a popcorn smiley? i mean if ever there's a time when you want to just sit back and watch something unfold it's when Fig has his fishing rod out and the term 'haters' has been used damn you moderators ......DAMN YOU! erm....Matt, can we get a popcorn smiley?
It's been a while since I last saw Jerry Burgess on TV but he seems to have lost some weight and doesn't actually look that well, does anyone else think or have noticed this? or is it just me. I wonder if he too has had time take it's toll. Shame if so as he has shown such strong dignity over this whole latest episode.
Even as we head to the most important qualifying session of the year for the closest championship since 2006, the major topic of discussion in the paddock is still the schism between Valentino Rossi and Jerry Burgess. A press conference featuring the pair was called by Yamaha yesterday, on Burgess's instigation. The rest of the mainly Aussie pit crew slipped in the back door and stood stony-faced at the side of the room and exited just as stealthily at the end of the formal proceedings. Both men made formal statements and answered a few questions before there was a long, dignified round of applause for Jerry from the biggest audience I've seen at a press conference for a while. [SIZE=-1]Valentino confirmed he'd had a change in mind for a while but a leak forced him to tell people earlier than he wanted to. Jerry confirmed it had come as a shock to him, but was very keen to say that if that was what was needed to get Vale back to the front then it was a good thing. JB said he reads lots of sporting biographies and he'd noted that a lot of sportsmen change their caddie or coach in the final years of their career to try and squeeze another couple of years out. Asked afterwards if any of those veterans had benefited from the change he replied succinctly "None." After name checking Wayne Rainey and Erv Kanemoto as his toughest opposition, Jerry reckoned that his next appearance at a GP will be Indianapolis next year so he can see a few American friends. It felt like the end of an era. For more than one reason. by julian ryder, on the ground in spain [SIZE=-2]Saturday, November 09, 2013[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
