The bar goes through the 'hole' between the frame / headstock and airbox.......max diameter of bar 25mm......... If the half fairing is fitted you have to whip that off.... It will wind up on either side about 5 turns each time.....20 each side will usually have the wheel off the ground I use a rear paddock stand regardless of how stable the front stand is........and the feet can be turned at right angles or parallel....if parallel, I slide the 20mm bar into the foot and wedge it. It might be a tiny bit more Heath Robinson than the Abba stand version but then it's about £120 cheaper....
Just get a headstock stand. You can get forks etc all out. Only thing you cant do is take yoke off. And if you want that then use trestles or his ^ stand or ladders or straps or whatever. Bear in mind you will need to jack the front somehow anyway with this stands
But you don't have to jack anything with mine...............forks, yoke all come out easy (even with the full fairing on) and knock another one up for the rear end and out comes the swingarm with taking the zorsts off etc etc.............. .........use both at the same time and a skate board and wheel the engine away...... £20 Fanks.................. AL
How do you get the front in the air for the stands then, get a big mate and lift it?! Unless I'm missing seeing a rocker mechanism like a front under for stand edited I see there are nuts so assume you wind it up... Spend the money mate and get headstock one, so much less hassle!
But a headstock one won't let you change or adjust the head stock bearings will it................??? £10 Not for the advice, but for the stand....
Blimey Andy...........Fancy you saying that Ducati owners are thick........ ......and whether my stand is a proper one or not, it works...... ..........so the fact it isn't an overpriced nice tubular affair painted in Ducati Red or a sh*te orange like most of them are, I really don't give a flying f***.......... ..........its up to owners how they spend (waste) their money, as long as they have seen all the options.
Theres no way I could build that for a tenner, or a ton. Buy materials, cant weld so by the time I've bodged it five times to get something that works...then put on bike first time and find it doesn't...and I'm not think, just not skilled with my hands...there is considerable difference ;-)
No welding required..............four bits of wood and a few screws...........hardly rocket science........even easier if some kind person gave you all the dimensions.......... AL
[FONT="]I have the ABBA stand with the front lifty assembly thing and its very good (as shown by DesmoDave in Post 18). That said, how often do any of us need to get the front wheel off the ground? If I had not already got the ABBA kit I would think seriously about making a Monster equivalent of Arquebus' stand. It looks to be cheap, effective, and can be easily stored away. There seems to be a little snobbery going on with idea that amateur bike maintainers must have shiny manufactured tools when a little ingenuity will suffice for operations that only need to be done occasionally.[/FONT]
Is it snobbery or is it jealousy that they didn't think of it themselves.....??? Or is it justification of having spent a fortune on a device when it wasn't necessary......??? AL
I have the abba front lift. I use it reasonably frequently since i got it. It makes it easier to clean the front wheel. Ive got my front off my 916 at the moment whilst I dick around with my new radial brackets. However I lowered it onto jacks as I dont trust leaving that strap on over an extended unattended period. But it works well for me.
after a bit of thought - Paddock stand (under fork/caliper) - changing wheels/tyres/discs etc. Paddock stand (under yoke) - Changing wheels/tyres/discs. Dropping out fork stanchions, setting static sag Arquebus stand + lifting device (unless thread acts as screw jack?) - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes Abba Stand (Standard) fuck all use for front wheel Abba Stand and front wheel device - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes Trolley jack - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes (a bit wobbly though) Abba - Ok to listen to. Agnetha and Annifred good to look at.
Edited for Cranker: "after a bit of thought - Paddock stand (under fork/caliper) - changing wheels/tyres/discs etc. F*** all use at the rear. Paddock stand (under yoke) - Changing wheels/tyres/discs. Dropping out fork stanchions, setting static sag. F*** all use at the rear. Arquebus stand and thread acts as screw jack - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes, cleaning bearings/replacing bearings, Setting static sag...............Then move to rear and remove swingarm complete with spindle, without removing exhaust system. Then use two stands and drop engine out on skateboard..... Abba Stand (Standard) fuck all use for front wheel, forks and yokes........Not much use for removal of swingarm or engine out......or a bit too wobbly if it can be done...... Abba Stand and front wheel device - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes. Trolley jack - changing wheel/tyres/discs, dropping out fork stanchions, dropping out yokes (a bit wobbly though) Abba - Possibly Ok to listen to.... Agnetha and Annifred were good to look at"
Personally, I have greater admiration for the cheap but effective approach. Also, it leaves spare cash to spend on upgrades for the bike. And like Al says, his system allows the complete front end to be dismantled. I reckon with a bit more ingenuity you could modify the design so it doubled as a wheel balancer stand too. My paddock stand started life as a wheeled zimmerframe. Its in chrome plated tubular steel and is super strong. Indeed I've used it a few times and I haven't even bothered getting it welded up yet. Also its a monument to the zimmer's former owner. Similarly, my tyre bead breaker involves little more than an old wooden fence post and something solid to lever it against. With the money thus saved, and more thanks to Al's stand ideas, I reckon I'm getting on for halfway towards the cost of a set of BST carbon wheels for my next project. ......
They have already been used for that several times...............just clamp down the axle on the top with the wheel in place..... AL
