Blackfish - the Whale that Killed Repeated tonight at 10:30pm on Beeb4. I saw this last week and it's pretty horrifying, firstly that Killer Whales are still kept captive at all, and secondly that the trainers / handlers are duped into risking their very lives in the name of a million-dollar 'entertainment' industry. Grim but fascinating...
I saw that. It was really well made and just so sad. The way its pitched you think you'll feel sorry for the people, but that is so not the case. Two other good ones to watch are The Cove and Sharkwater The Cove (2009) - IMDb Sharkwater (2006) - IMDb
I missed the beginning of this film unfortunately. I was aware that Blackfish had been made and was looking out for it, hopefully it will be repeated soon. Another sad indictment of man's inhumanity. These are obviously highly intelligent social creatures and we are crowding them in with strangers and asking them to perform tricks for food. No wonder they turn on us from time to time. Very sad.
I'm sorry but they are a huge predatory animal, you wouldn't try to get a Great White Shark to feed from your hand or hug a Grizzly Bear would you? Orca got the name Killer Whale from when whaling was common place, it was commonplace for pods of Orca to strip a harpooned whale carcass before the crew of the whaling ship could get it aboard the ship, it was also commonplace for Orca to attack anyone who would try to stop them. I'm not in favour of whaling by the way...
We are led to believe that there has been no recorded incident of a human being attacked by a killer whale in the wild. Even then you would be mad to treat them with anything other than the greatest respect. The way in which the killer whales in the film attacked their trainers was incredibly clinical indicating a real intelligence and understanding of what they were doing, these were not accidents or frenzied attacks.
I always used to take a keen interest in marine life, and have numerous books about dolphins, sharks, rays etc...havent seen these programmes, but was a very keen SCUBA diver for years, hence my interest...(ive got out of the way of it unfortunately)..anyway, from experience i know that dolphins, of which the killer 'whale' is the largest example, kill and attack far more humans than sharks..but these are misrepresented in the media...rather like dog bites..the most dangerous dog in terms of biting and mauling is the Labrador... Sadly, these animals are all being hunted into extinction, particularly the sharks..i remember in the UAE, the arab fisherman used to catch them in their nets, and whilst they were alive, used to chop off their fins and throw them back over the side to drown.....the markets were full of shark fins...utterly disgusting... In my view, any animal kept in captivity for entertainment of any kind is wrong.
Still on the iplayer (until Thursday night at 22:00) BBC iPlayer - Storyville: 2013-2014: Blackfish - The Whale that Killed Crikey Si, you're human after all :tongue:
This is a risk of the trade im afraid a bit like falling from height in the construction industry.Anyone working with animals is always going to be at risk of bite,injury or in worse case death.There has been another case in the news from the late Steve Irwins wildlife centre where keeper has been mauled by a tiger.I guess the more you interact with animals especially for entertainment purposes the more accidents will happen. Ive kept animals that could be considered dangerous as pets and worked in wildlife centre for a while.I know the risk and accepted it and put in place safety measures to minimize the risks.Mine was only 18 foot but this vid gives you a good idea. Huge Tiger Reticulated Python - YouTube and what happens when you don't bother testing with a snake stick first.He was lucky that time. Male Tiger Reticulated Python almost bites Travis - YouTube There is good practice and bad practice i guess and different levels of safety.I wouldn't fancy swimming with any large predator though and if i had any contact with big cats etc id want someone close by that had a rifle and good shot for if the shit hits the fan like you see at safari parks etc.
That may be so but new staff were not told of previous incidents of violence with one particular whale. Had they been fully informed I might agree with you but that's not what happened - the company in question recruited people to work with dangerous animals and simply chose to ignore the risks that they were subjecting their staff to. Several experienced trainers were killed. Their employers didn't want to pull the plug on a lucrative tourist attraction, and just covered it up. Not good enough! Corporate manslaughter at the very least. And that's not to mention the fundamental cruelty inflicted on highly intelligent ocean-going predators, purely for our entertainment, or more accurately for our cash... You should watch it. It won't make you feel good about the human race but it makes compelling viewing nonetheless...
Fair enough but as I stated ANY keeper working with large predators knows the risk and should make there own risk assesment.History is good to know but not always relevant.Ie wouldn't trust a animal 100% regardless of it killing or injuring other keepers or been known as nice calm safe temperament.I get what you are saying about company giving accurate background knowledge.But its down to the individual also. Ie .ME-You want me to swim with Orca. Employer- YES.Me -how are you going to disable it or kill it if the shit hits the fan.Employer-We cant.Me- Go fuck yourself . Not surprised at the tiger mauling either if they follow Steve 'By crikey the little blighter bit me' Irwins handling guidelines.I kept waiting for a crocodile to bite his fecking arm off. Glad we are more sensible in the UK and you don't see zoo keepers swimming with dangerous animals like killer whales or petting lions and tigers.Fecking hell in the States they keep big cats as pets and all kinds of shit like fully grown chimps. Maybe the above is why zoo's and safari parks in the UK have high powered firearms and stringent safety procedures.
thought you all might like this short video. Maybe there is hope. Helping a Beached Dolphin Pod. Faith In Humanity Restored . - YouTube
Any sensible person handling dangerous animals would always wear boots, stout trousers, a jacket with long sleeves, gloves, and a helmet with a mask. Which is no doubt why the Steve Irwin school of TV wildlife programme making involves idiotically wearing short trousers and short sleeves, with totally bare legs, arms, head, face and neck - especially while handling poisonous snakes. Makes better TV, because we can laugh at the presenter's stupidity.