What Titanium Bolts to Buy ?

Not copaslip then? i was given a tube of grease to use by Probolt but it doesn't say what it is IIRC.

Or is that was copaslip is?

 

No, def not copaslip lol.... (don't get me started on how not to use copaslip haha)

I use this from Redline,
Red Line Synthetic Oil - Grease and Assembly Lube - Assembly Lube
swear by it, use it for engine assembly as well

 

glad we agree... (digital hugs all round)

 

Ask the question as to whether they are UK manufactured? he may sell from the UK but ask the question, also worth asking if he can prove that the certification is in place to prove they are the grade he states.
Use factory torque figures and you won't go wrong, but ensure the threads are clean (into what you are tightening the bolts) and use the correct lube (I may have said that before?).
Last thing I will say though is you get what you pay for, I have probably spent 3x what my Fireblade is worth on Titanium fixings and other parts and will do when I tear into the Ducati again replace all fixings with Ti... and use either Pete at Ti64 or Pro-bolt. I have bought from Ebay but now chose not too (unless they are Pro-bolt)

 

So all the Ti bolt kits sold by Pro bolt that are supplied with Copaslip are wrong then, and all the race teams also are wrong Maybe you could let Probolt Uk and US know. Don't bother posting up pages of bull shit baffles brains give a plane simple term reason why Probolt sell the wrong stuff in the kits. Maybe you the expert could email them and post up the reply. cheers.

 

Wow, so much anger within that post.... maybe the supply it because it is cheap and most idiots (please include yourself in that) don't know the difference... feel free to use what you like, I merely offered what I know and use from experience and prefer to use something far better that mere Copaslip.
Copaslip has it's place... use what you like.
send me your address and you can have all the sachets from my Pro-bolt stock....

 

So like I said YOU are saying Probolt supply the wrong product. And in all the race teams and bolts they supply they know nothing. Put your money where your mouth is and show me some mails to and from them with your expertise!

 

I am saying they give you something that is cheap... I prefer to use something better.
Race teams use Copaslip because they are always undoing their fasteners, us, the mere motorist tend to leave things done up far longer than a race team, Copaslips goes crudy (I excuse a poor choice of word but it works for me) and leaves the threads more chance of galling. I said already, use what you like....
I have no need to email anyone, you can be my guest and go be the annoying cunt elsewhere, I have no need to argue with the village idiot as you will only succeed in bringing me down to your level.
I'll leave a reply open for you as you love the last word, can't be arsed with you as sadly another thread is ruined by your pathetic attempts to troll it...

 

Well I know a good number of pro bike builders, race teams, engine builders and tuners and many many others who are fully qualified at top level who use it, cheap it may be. Just to say its wrong is a little bold when you give no full explanation of why, galvanic reaction maybe a consideration but the product is widely accepted in the industry.

Not being rude PAL just direct, no need to call someone a CUNT!

 

I love how Ti bolt, er.... threads always turn into slanging matches.

Copper greases are better than nothing, at one time the correct way was to silver plate the threads to prevent galling. There are other surface treatments available, and various pastes too, but we're not building nuclear installations or spaceships here.

loads of info and Ti bolts here Mettec Makers of Quality Titanium Fasteners, Motorsports Products, and Motorcycle Accessories.

or here POGGIPOLINI Srl

None of which are much cheaper, if any, than Pro bolt.

The cost is due to all the checks and balances that are in place to ensure quality, and the relatively low volumes they're made in.

Oh check the cost of a proper steel or aluminium bolt these days.


Pay your money and take your choice.

 

For what its worth, I also avoid copperslip for general use on threads, preferring to use black molybdenum disulphide grease.
I don't have much in the way of tech support for my decision either, its largely an intuitive thing, albeit based on having a background in engineering.
For me, copperslip is nasty, claggy stuff best saved for high temp applications like exhaust studs.
Moly.D grease is super slinky, having excellent high load characteristics and is recommended for many very high torque threads.
My only real tech experience involved the assembly of a large dia (over 3 inches) fine thread between two 316 stainless steel halves of an industrial ball valve body. Moly.d grease was the only thing that stood even half a chance of preventing those threads from galling.
It does sometimes need renewing after a few uses though, while copperslip seems to have much more cling and one application of that is usually enough for the duration, despite repeated reassembly. This is possibly why race teams use it.
Its possibly also a more reliable recommendation from the likes of pro-bolt as it lasts longer.
But, as stated previously, its a personal choice.