I know, I could do a search but I have done and I am lazy. I've come to the conclusion that the Pilot Road 3's are a good choice, shining in the wet weather situations. However, I've only ever ridden superbikes and normally go for much sticker and sport focused tyres. Previously, mileage played no factor in my purchase. But now it does. At the moment, my Multistrada 1200S has Bridgstone BT-023 tyres on at the moment. I don't know the mileage but I will want to get them replaced in January. I'm a all season rider. The BT-023's are not too bad! They give some confidence in the dry, wet isn't too bad but I have had a few squirms from them when pushing it in the wet. But, I ran BT-016's on my old 748S and I distinctly remember the performance dropping off almost within a couple hundred miles after a couple of k on the tyres. The tyres currently on the Multi are past that point. And I don't have the best confidence in them. I won't be riding in the wet most of the time, so having wet weather performance out weight dry weather doesn't seem very logical to me. Ideally, these are the requirements in order of importance I have: High mileage Dry weather grip Long motorway cruising ability (100+ miles on motorways in one sitting) Steep walls for cornering bliss (I like steep walls for more aggressive turn ins) Wet weather grip Cookies I'm open to all suggestions and I will be creating a 'poll result' and keeping it updated for those wondering the same.
Road 3's excellent choice, there as sticky as the road 2's in the dry and the dry to wet weather difference is very very minimal, that was there design target, wait till mid January for the new road 4, although untested in the real world they have been showing quicker wet and dry lap times than the rd3 good turn in like the power 3's and mileage test show Michelin are not the happiest that it seems to last longer, this was not a design target and came as a surprise!, Metzeler z8 has to be the next choice but has a nice neutral turn although a small tweak on my 749s and it's nice and manoeuvrable now, unbelievable wet grip, mileage needs a bit of testing but no complaints yet, Dunlop sportsmart 2's but price is a bit high, lastly Bridgestone T30's, fantastic in the dry ok in the wet but mileage suffering compared to the 023's...........
Ah, cheers mate! The PR4's... Any write up about them? I have always been sceptical about going for new tyres on the market simply because they are new... A bit of unknown. I would rather invest in something well tested.
The moment I am allowed to release then I'll add it here....... Test data used PR3 as benchmark and PR4 has tweaked every bar which will make it the best commuter all weather tyre out there..... Latest unconfirmed price list show very little if any increase over the pr3.... As soon as I have anything else I stick it here......
The Z8 is a great tire, rated better than the PR3 in many tests. I've the T30s fitted to a superduke and my streetfighter and find them a cracking tire, wet or dry. Seem to be lasting very well too. Could be the compromise your looking for
I know for a fact from friends they sware by the Michelin Pilot Road 3....they are a good tyre. But for me, I went with the Bridgestone T30. I'm just into Bridgestone and I ride in wet weather too on the bike. Either one imo. http://ducatiforum.co.uk/f31/bridgestone-s20s-bridgestone-t30s-14090/
The feel from the z8 is very confidence inspiring, T30's are great, I tested them at Donnington in June, but the life expectancy we're seeing is approx 20% less than bt023's, it's the commuters that are getting hit from squaring off quicker,
So when could we be expecting to see 'cracking price plans' then please? I'm looking for a set for my elderly zzr, to replace the PR1s on now. They're alright, but I wondered if there was anything better? It's for all weather use, mainly munching the miles on motorways. I know I'm looking for the holy grail of course! (Ps sorry for any perceived thread hijack!!)
Another vote for Michelins, though I think the pr3 is a bit vague at the front at speed compared to pr2. From a cornering point of view I found the limiting factor to be me, right to the edge of the tyres and toe sliders down on the Multi without any sign of giving up grip.Btw, completed 3000 miles on the pr3s mostly fast two up riding in the Alps, including motorway work, heavy rain and blistering heat. No squaring off visible and little sign of wear overall. Unlike the Scorpions that were shagged before reaching 3k!
1990, C1 (the 1100) 120 and 170size, but I am currently using a 180 as used by the bike a couple of years after...
I had 2 sets of PR3's on my ZZR1400, liked the grip & feel but did'nt like the punctures. PR3's have fabric band construction I had 2 punctures in both rear tyres. All in the centre of the tread, I'm convinced they are more puncture prone. Fitted BT23's after that, did 6,500 miles on last set still has some meat left on them when I sold the bike. Wet grip still good & slightly better turn in. I would also look at the new Angel GT's.
I'm not torn again, I got a slow puncture on the BT 026's I got on at the moment, they are close to the wear indicator. So they are getting replaced this week, hopefully tomorrow. I really, REALLY like them, they have grown on me, they have a slight flat spot but I do a lot of motorway riding so I can forgive them for that. I just saw on this site (Motorcycle Summer Premium Touring Tyres Tyres | the online tyre guide) that the BT 026's top the PR3's... Now the majority of the new tyres life that I get will be spent on the roads, which will be summer as it's almost spring. So the requirement to be wet over dry is no longer required... What are your thoughts? PR3's or BT 026's?
If a sharp profile is one of your major requirements then you'd perhaps be well advised to buy a cheaper tyre and change it more frequently, rather than go for a high-mileage one and spend the last half of its life riding on a squared off tyre. Double compound tyres are your friend here, as the harder central section squares off less easily. Currently I run PR2s on my monster, and this pair have done about 7000 miles so far and they still retain a usable profile. If they are to be at a good price now the PR4s are out, they could be a very good deal indeed. On the other hand, while good wet grip might not be a priority most of the time, it can be seriously valuable on those rare occasions when you get caught out in the rain in the summer. So I'm still tempted with the PR3s myself. In fact, I've been gagging to fit a pair for ages but my PR2s just refuse to wear out.
Hmmmm, good input... Well I would certainly like to go for longer wear rather than replacing them more often. So maybe I should be more forgiving on the sharp profile and leave that for other bikes? PR4's meant to be as good? If not better than the 3's?
