this was my second attempt at a filter removal tool as the first one snapped bloody filter was really tight lol
Have you guys not seen a filter with the closed end dipped in abrasive coating ( sorta like non slip boat deck coating ).... on and off with the hand only . Or a filter wrench like this , which fits between the filter and the crankcase ? this thing cams closed ( see slotted hole for left rivet ) when you turn the black central boss in the off direction , Grips the filter tight enough to leave dents in it . I NEVER use ducati spare part filters , 80 bucks NZ as opposed to a filter ( framm ) for a 2CV Citroen ( for example ) for 13 bucks , probly made in the same factory . This is real basic stuff , but surprizing how many peeps get it wrong:smile:
I've been in the trade too long to mention, I always put a smear of grease on the seal, it won't dry up and aids removing. One thing that winds me up and has me swearing is trying to undo a friggin filter that has been fitted dry by a baboon that doesn't know any better and thinks tighter the better. I was going to leave my back to back a nice present b4 I left and return the favour on the last oil change I did on the crane, but I didn't. Do you know that by putting grease on the seal, you will actually spin the filter on further and compress the seal more, for the same force as putting it on dry!!!
I can't believe no one has mentioned these, I bought mine individually for £4-5 each to fit various bikes/cars, but you can buy a kit with 13 in for £20 inc delivery NEW 13 PCS Cup Type Oil Filter Wrench Removal Puller Tool Kit Set Adaptor 3/8" | eBay no dramas what so ever, never not been able to get a filter off, fit the filters on the dukes that are recessed. As the load is applied all around the filter it doesn't squash them either. for the sake of your sanity go buy one!
leason learned there. I confess I didn't run any oil on the old filter as I thought there is bound to be a spill that would do the trick. How wrong was I!!
Had a faulty O ring seal on gsx1100f many years ago...it wasn't funny when it blew and shot hot oil all over the back tyre just before a cattle grid. Nearly had me and the Mrs off! I'm happy with a tight filter thanks!
Without greasing or oiling the o ring you are more likely to scrunch or nick the o ring, causing exactly what you describe. Just like cam covers, tighter can sometimes mean a worse seal. There was a common problem with old American V8's with pressed valve covers. A baboon would over tighten the covers on their thick cork gaskets, the covers would in turn distort, and leak. The baboons response was to tighten the cover further, distorting it more and making the leak worse. In one instance this resulted in someone coming to be at a show asking why their trans am valve covers wouldn't stop leaking. The covers were so badly distorted you could actually feed a feeler gauge between the valve cover and the gasket at the longest stretch between the retaining bolts. £10 for a pair of cheap covers and gaskets later I had fitted them correctly using little more than a nip (10lbs/ft - about 1/4 of a turn after the bolt had contacted the cover) and the leaks were gone. To get back in topic, an oil filter should be put on hand tight (quite firmly if it concerns you, but never two hands or tools) and the O ring properly lubricated. It will not leak.
It should be said that this is quite disconcerting the first time you change a filter - it feels for certain like it isn't tight enough and is bound to undo itself - but you have to trust the instruction. In over thirty years and on dozens and dozens of bikes I have only ever had one oil filter leak, and that was the first one I did. Because I didn't follow the instructions.
The only problem I have ever had was on my car, Drove to the local rubbish tip ( rural ... its a big hole in a paddock ) 1.5 ks away , drained oil , couldn't get the filter off so I stabbed a hole in it with a screwdriver and wound it off , chucked into the hole , took new filter out of packet ... noting immediately that it looked nothing like the one I had just stabbed a hole in and chucked into a pit full of dead sheep , and ..... of course, it didn't fit . By the time I had walked home , found an old filter and got back to the car it had started to piss down and yeah the windows were down
Hi, Currently having a battle with a stuck probably over tightened oil filter on my 916. I'm going to try the jubilee clip method first but would appreciate if I could borrow one of your tools if need be. Anyone near Derby? If not I will cover postage etc and return it promptly. Cheers Haydn
Not done it on a Ducati, but I have in the past removed oil filters that were a bit stuck with a 'heavy duty' leather trouser belt.........made a loop using the buckle and added a wooden dowel across the belt and wound it tight then twisted the dowel......its worth an experiment.... AL
The problem with the duke is that that only a 1/4 of the oil oil filter is accessible due to the fact it sits up inside the casing. Thanks Kermit, I'll have a go tomorrow night with the jubilee clip and report back. Cheers
count the number of flats on the filter and go buy the proper tool on ebay, will be there Wednesday probably. If you go to a good motor factors they may well have one. loads on here for £3.50, not sure what the postage is
Cheers but please read my other post. The filter is that tight the "proper tool" just rotated and deformed the flats on the filter.
