Yes looks like co pilot does allow you to change route. I still like tyre to plan and send to car tomtom
Copilot has onboard european maps (no downloaded data) and has a "background navigation" mode so you lock phone and still receive voice guidance.
Tomtom app (iPhone app) allows up to five waypoint - or stops - whatever you like to call them. on my recent trip to the Black Forest, the TT in my iP5 worked great - unfortunately I couldn't see it; too much daylight for the screen - and too small picture IMO. Another hassle is the cabling and charging. Think it through twice. Will you leave your phone on the bike while you pay your petrol? Not recommended. You'll have to disconnect all the cables and remove phone from holder/casing = a lot of hassle. and when you've paid your fuel, you can put it all back. third thing is, when fx you're crossing boarders or outside other networks, the phone will give an error of no data connection/lost network, and it will show on the middle of the screen; so while you're riding along, you won't be able to get rid of it, as you're wearing gloves... no, the idea is great of the phone to charge and recording the odd video or picture, but not really in the long run - I find it too impractical. Im now considering if a TT Rider 2013 is worth going for instead, not sure the original Ducati/Garmin have the greatest feedback. only thing I feel lacking is to be able to connect to my phone to get live traffic eventually, but hey-ho, a Multi goes everywhere they say
How do these apps know where you are to be able to give turn by turn instructions if they do not connect to the Internet? By the way I downloaded Copilot for free but guess you have to pay for the maps. No prices given though. Any idea?
Copilot is what I use. Cheap and twinned with a quick release mount. Must say when paying or petrol I simply hit the power button to turn the screen off. Would take a thief longer than it would take me to run to the bike to remove it. I used an optimate to car jack conversion lead on my ktm, then just a USB car jack thing. Was brilliant with sun light reflection being the only issue. Audio wise a pair of £35 Sony MW-600 Bluetooth headphones do my music, Siri and nav. Had them years and they are the best headphones ever, use them everywhere. Only issue is my forgetfulness. Park the bike up in the staffed car park near the office, spend an hour or so at my desk and realise the phone is still on the bike. The car park staff know me for it now and always have a cursory check for me and keep it in the office.
because the map data is stored on the phone depends on which maps/platform e.g. I have Western and Eastern europe which is £35 for iPhone (and Android)
The same way as a normal car sat nav does, the maps are already loaded and the iphone / etc, have a internal gps
Here's mine. Just fitted it tonight using exactly the same method as Multiman from the third post of this thread. An iPhone 4S running CoPilot connected up using bits from Ultimate Addons. Sound via a Sena SMH10. Just need somewhere exciting to ride it now to give it a proper test!
Also I have the same iphone unit, but changed to car unit in w'proof case as the touch screen doesn't work with gloves on for iphone. Anyone for solution for that?
I copied Multiman's installation - check out his pictures and instructions here. To be specific, I used this kit from Ultimate Addons. Like you, I'm wondering whether the iPhone will be the right solution for the long-term, but I thought I'd give it a go and see how I get on. I'm hoping that even if I can't see the phone in sunlight the spoken directions via the Sena will keep me on the right road! As for gloves, I plan to set it before I set off and not touch it again until I get to where I'm going
I use co pilot on my iPhone 5 for £35 it's an absolute bargain, you get all of Western Europe, speed cameras and a year of live traffic included. Used it last year (in the car) for a trip to Belgium, Holland and Germany and it performed seamlessly, best bit is that because it's on an iPhone you can look stuff up on Google and then just copy and paste post code or address into Co pilot.
I did the same, but tbh if you go off course or want to find fuel, zoom map whatever, its gloves off. My car satnav doesn't have BT so its visual only, but all works fine with gloves. I have the addones power and both cables, so carry the iphone one in the fairing pouch thingy just in case battery runs out.
The iPhone I'm using it on is old and slightly broken having been down the toilet (!) - it doesn't work on a mobile network anymore so is useless as a phone, but the GPS still works and so, with CoPilot that doesn't require a network connection, makes a perfect SatNav with no fear of any roaming charges, etc. when abroad - and for making phone calls I use my new, and toilet free, iPhone!! ;-)
No it's GPS, it will work with the data off. However if you want live traffic you will need 3G on. I use Vodafone passport which allows you to use your UK allowance abroad, so I leave the data switched on.
CoPilot downloads all the maps onto the phone and so doesn't need a network connection to work - just GPS (which you don't pay for obviously). If you wanted to look up stuff on Google and then get CoPilot to take you there then the Internet search costs you roaming, but CoPilot doesn't use any data for navigation. If you enable real-time traffic alerts then I think it gets them via mobile data (roaming charges), but as long as you don't do that you avoid all charges. Ah - what he said!!
