Just run the 200 as Ducati intended.... but yeah most would never know.... In your head you may think it will make you turn in faster if you run a taller tyre, a 190 on a 200 rim may give you more contact patch for Stoner style corner speed to the bike meet...but in fact your prob going no faster than me on a CB500
Normal police behavior, talking down to members of the public they perceive to be beneath them.:biggrin:
until you are one of the tirade of questions i get inundated with ...........then i'm your best mate......
They are pretty horrid! Perhaps a skilled rider might manage more than I, but despite traction control and all the switchy bits turn up to full, it still spins up and goes all sideways. Definitely a fair-weather bike... plus you don't have to keep it clean.
Erm...I think Richie is asking what the TYRES are like not what the difference in dropping the size of the tyre is...as an 848 is 180 anyway :wink: Richie are they not SC's? They looked like it n a friends Pani y'day but didn't have a close look. If so they are like yours... IMHO of the tyres I've tried the SC's do the fast road & track stuff perfectly. Although I'm thinking of trying some Contis next for cost and also to allow a little more wet weather especially at a trackday when its otherwise staying n the garage!
Mate having issues with it sliding/moving when coming off brakes, slow corner, side of tyre and getting on throttle. Not sure if that is tyre or weight bias tho, maybe a little too much on front so rear cannot dig in? That was the lunch conversation y'day anyway...
you wanna ask some of the fannygales that were just at Aragon about rear tyre wear................:winkops! my 16.5 190 superbike pirelli wear rate was fantastic......perhaps i was just lucky..
Does the profile of the tyre affect where the tax disk goes? I've run 180s and 190s on my 999. The main difference I found is that with the 190, I still had a bit of chicken strip when road riding - which is fine for me. Happy with that. Having set up the bike, ride height, suspension settings and such, I found the bike turned just fine with 190s. I'd agree with Andyb but ... you know ... damn. :wink:
So are the tyres fitted to panigale any good?! Ffs fellas for semi intelligent people is it that hard?!!
Just to add fire to the discussion and prove that depends who answers the email from Ducati, Dear Mr. Wyatt, thank you for contacting us. with reference to your request I tried calling you to inform you that the tire mesures that respect the homologation data on your 1199panigale S MY12 are 120/70-17 for the front tyre and 200/55-17 for the rare tire. As for the tire brand, you can choose whatever brand you like, aslong as the homologation mesures are respected. I would advise you however to ask for advices to an official Ducati dealer, who will surely have the right skills to help you. To search for the nearest dealer, you can have a look at our " Dealer Locator" section on the official website www.ducatiuk.com I remain at your disposal. Kind regards, Sofia Customer Service Ducati Motor Holding Spa Borgo Panigale – Italy www.ducati.com
Literally had a thread about Ducasti Forum and people were saying that no-one ever posts, well it's because of people like Andy who just post an inflammatory remark to get a reaction rather than just politely reference some previous threads etc. Honestly what is the point in taking the effort to post that! Anyway... for ref I have the 848 but I know that the RIM size is 5.5 inch, and 6 Inch I believe on the 1098 (Same for the panigale?) so it isn't just a case of throwing a 180 on the 1098 for faster turning because it changes the 'profile shape' of the tyre which can have a more diverse effect on the footprint of the tyre at lean. I put a 190 on my CBR600 once and it just didn't work, just felt all wrong. At the time I was wrongly advised that I would get a nicer feel when on track with it.
Although on a completely separate note, it doesn't really matter what tyres you put on. I have run 195/75 rear tyres on a r6 and have been running 190/55 tyres on my 748. Please note that all manufacturers are different - a 180/55 michelin is much narrower than a 180/60 pirelli. a 200/500 pirelli may or may not be skinnier than a michelin. The skinniest 190/55 tyres i've come across are the brigestone R10s. People then also don't realize that the pirelli supercorsas that dorn their bikes direct from factory are not the race spec tyres. For fast road riding, the tyres as long as the road conditions permit, will not make a huge difference.
I agree that the difference won't be huge in most cases but I have to disagree that all 180/55's are different 'size' the 180 is a static width measurement and the 55/60 is a percentage ratio of width; where tyres differ is the radius of the shape, ie touring tyres are shaped to have a fatter contact patch at more moderate lean; where as a trackday tyre is designed to have a 'V' profile so you have a bigger contact patch at high lean. If u measure across every manufacturers 180/190 wide tyres they will all measure 180/190
I'm talking different manufacturers. I have dunlop 190/55, metzeler 190/55 at home along with michelin 180/55/pirelli 180/60 and they aren't the same though. I agree that "technically" they should, but they don't. Hence, why on some bikes - sme tyres would touch swing arm and some not etc.
Hi Ritchie, I ended up on on a Ducati track day at donington last year and the weather was torrential. I was on standard fitment supercorsa's all day (wouldn't recommend it, but couldn't be bothered to get wets fitted) and didn't have any real moments unless I was being really aggressive with the throttle. At the weekend I was out and it was cold and damp but found the tires to be ok , just let them warm up, and as any tyre ride to the road conditions. Just my two penny's worth, but if you plan on commuting regularly (not the bike for that), get some better all weather tyres fitted.AC
