Times at 2pm: [TABLE="class: resultsTable"] [TR] [TD] Pos[/TD] [TD] No[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] Rider[/TD] [TD] Time[/TD] [TD] Diff[/TD] [TD] Diff previous[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1[/TD] [TD] 93[/TD] [TD] Marc Marquez[/TD] [TD] Honda RC213V[/TD] [TD] 1:59.926[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 2[/TD] [TD] 26[/TD] [TD] Dani Pedrosa[/TD] [TD] Honda RC213V[/TD] [TD] 2:00.336[/TD] [TD] 0.410[/TD] [TD] 0.410[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 3[/TD] [TD] 6[/TD] [TD] Stefan Bradl[/TD] [TD] Honda RC213V[/TD] [TD] 2:00.339[/TD] [TD] 0.413[/TD] [TD] 0.003[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 4[/TD] [TD] 46[/TD] [TD] Valentino Rossi[/TD] [TD] Yamaha M1[/TD] [TD] 2:00.464[/TD] [TD] 0.538[/TD] [TD] 0.125[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 5[/TD] [TD] 41[/TD] [TD] Aleix Espargaro[/TD] [TD] Yamaha FTR Open[/TD] [TD] 2:00.547[/TD] [TD] 0.621[/TD] [TD] 0.083[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 6[/TD] [TD] 38[/TD] [TD] Bradley Smith[/TD] [TD] Yamaha M1[/TD] [TD] 2:00.603[/TD] [TD] 0.677[/TD] [TD] 0.056[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 7[/TD] [TD] 99[/TD] [TD] Jorge Lorenzo[/TD] [TD] Yamaha M1[/TD] [TD] 2:00.615[/TD] [TD] 0.689[/TD] [TD] 0.012[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 8[/TD] [TD] 29[/TD] [TD] Andrea Iannone[/TD] [TD] Ducati GP14[/TD] [TD] 2:00.855[/TD] [TD] 0.929[/TD] [TD] 0.240[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 9[/TD] [TD] 41[/TD] [TD] Pol Espargaro[/TD] [TD] Yamaha M1[/TD] [TD] 2:01.061[/TD] [TD] 1.135[/TD] [TD] 0.206[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 10[/TD] [TD] 19[/TD] [TD] Alvaro Bautista[/TD] [TD] Honda RC213V[/TD] [TD] 2:01.110[/TD] [TD] 1.184[/TD] [TD] 0.049[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 11[/TD] [TD] 4[/TD] [TD] Andrea Dovizioso[/TD] [TD] Ducati GP14[/TD] [TD] 2:01.146[/TD] [TD] 1.220[/TD] [TD] 0.036[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 12[/TD] [TD] 35[/TD] [TD] Cal Crutchlow[/TD] [TD] Ducati GP14[/TD] [TD] 2:01.396[/TD] [TD] 1.470[/TD] [TD] 0.250[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 13[/TD] [TD] 51[/TD] [TD] Michele Pirro[/TD] [TD] Ducati GP14 Test[/TD] [TD] 2:02.177[/TD] [TD] 2.251[/TD] [TD] 0.781[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 14[/TD] [TD] 69[/TD] [TD] Nicky Hayden[/TD] [TD] Honda RCV1000R Open[/TD] [TD] 2:02.287[/TD] [TD] 2.361[/TD] [TD] 0.110[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 15[/TD] [TD] 5[/TD] [TD] Colin Edwards[/TD] [TD] Yamaha FTR Open[/TD] [TD] 2:02.545[/TD] [TD] 2.619[/TD] [TD] 0.258[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 16[/TD] [TD] 68[/TD] [TD] Yonny Hernandez[/TD] [TD] Ducati GP13 Open[/TD] [TD] 2:02.675[/TD] [TD] 2.749[/TD] [TD] 0.130[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 17[/TD] [TD] 72[/TD] [TD] Kosuke Akiyoshi[/TD] [TD] Honda RC213V Test[/TD] [TD] 2:02.692[/TD] [TD] 2.766[/TD] [TD] 0.017[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 18[/TD] [TD] 7[/TD] [TD] Hiroshi Aoyama[/TD] [TD] Honda RCV1000R Open[/TD] [TD] 2:03.034[/TD] [TD] 3.108[/TD] [TD] 0.342[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 19[/TD] [TD] 45[/TD] [TD] Scott Redding[/TD] [TD] Honda RCV1000R Open[/TD] [TD] 2:03.200[/TD] [TD] 3.274[/TD] [TD] 0.166[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 20[/TD] [TD] 14[/TD] [TD] Randy De Puniet[/TD] [TD] Suzuki Test[/TD] [TD] 2:03.205[/TD] [TD] 3.279[/TD] [TD] 0.005[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 21[/TD] [TD] 89[/TD] [TD] Katsuyuki Nakasuga[/TD] [TD] Yamaha M1 Test[/TD] [TD] 2:03.794[/TD] [TD] 3.868[/TD] [TD] 0.589[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 22[/TD] [TD] 70[/TD] [TD] Michael Laverty[/TD] [TD] PBM Aprilia[/TD] [TD] 2:04.374[/TD] [TD] 4.448[/TD] [TD] 0.580[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 23[/TD] [TD] 8[/TD] [TD] Hector Barbera[/TD] [TD] Avintia Kawasaki[/TD] [TD] 2:04.551[/TD] [TD] 4.625[/TD] [TD] 0.177[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 24[/TD] [TD] 23[/TD] [TD] Broc Parkes[/TD] [TD] PBM Aprilia[/TD] [TD] 2:04.816[/TD] [TD] 4.890[/TD] [TD] 0.265[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 25[/TD] [TD] 17[/TD] [TD] Karel Abraham[/TD] [TD] Honda RCV1000R Open[/TD] [TD] 2:05.261[/TD] [TD] 5.335[/TD] [TD] 0.445[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 26[/TD] [TD] 63[/TD] [TD] Mike Di Meglio[/TD] [TD] Avintia Kawasaki[/TD] [TD] 2:05.355[/TD] [TD] 5.429[/TD] [TD] 0.094[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
Interesting developments this morning with Bradley faster than Jorge. Iannone faster than works bikes again by 0.5 and Aleix Espagaro 5th on a Yamaha ftr open.
I am hugely concerned that satellite Ducati bikes are faster than the two factory boys, we can just hope that they are testing more duration stuff, or more experiments where as the sat guys are just going balls to the wall with what they have. I am disappointed to see the Honda Production guys so far off, would have been amazing if they were more like 1-1.3 off the pace rather than 2 seconds.
If the open class boys can mix it up in the top 6 then maybe that's the way Ducati should go? I know its early days but Asparagus is only half a second adrift of Marquez.
Indeed. There can't be that much difference between the vegetable bike and the official ones if he is actually faster than Lorenzo. Early days sure, but if the bike was that much slower (like the Honda client machines) then he wouldn't be where he is.
To be honest I don't really know the ins and outs of the cats arse when it comes to racing. But, for the first time this year im interested to see what Cal will do for a number of reasons. 1. I own a Ducati again (which makes me root for the underdog) 2. Watching last year (did catch all of them live) Cal looked to me like he was trying the hardest, ie riding a lot of times with injury - I know others were, but hey he's a brit! so it makes me biased.... 3. No-one since stoner has got anything good out of a ducati. 4. Just got my ticket for the British leg. Im looking at it from a very simplistic point of view....he's british, he's the underdog, and he's riding something that came out of the same factory that my bike came from. or at least I like to think that....
I hope he will stop talking in his odd put-on foreign accent this year, I want to hear some proper english coming out of his mouth. I want to hear the word 'bloody' and 'bleedin' in each interview and if he can drop the C bomb in there at least once he'll be forever a champion in my eyes. He's english, he needs to be angry, anti-social and bleedin' sound like it!!
I can't get my head around the difference between stoner's 'unbelievable turn of speed' on the production bike where he was tenths of a second off; versus all the boys now being 2 seconds back and Hayden saying it's slow. I realise it could well be Honda marketing to sell them; but surely the teams will be asking some seriously pointed questions at the mo? Ducati have closed the gap to 1.4 ish today? I would say that's more like the kinda pace we would b expecting today, when Rossi rode it there were weekends when he was no-more than 1 second of the pace but it's the last 1 second that's the hardest as has always been said. I am also not sure why Ducati seem to be playing round with the bodywork all the time, surely they should just be focusing on getting the frame sorted....
don't think the frame is the problem if so it would have been sorted already probably going to have to put an audi il4 in there or some mad v5 don't honestly think the current engine allows them to do the things they want , just buy cal the customer yam and put some fancy red bodywork on
But I don't get why they can't make the engine work... Honda confirmed that there's is a 90 degree also. So why Can't Ducati sort it, maybe there gearbox etc is all in the wrong place.....
after stoner won the championship it started going wrong , he could still be quick but had a crash in him as well , think it will be a long while before the red bike will compete again needs some major work not tweaks
Yeah, I agree, it seems like Cal found some stuff today to make a jump forwards, I really think though they just need to find the 0.5 immediate difference by changing one thing, that gives them a direction to push towards. Cal has already said that he changed the bike upside down at Valencia and it rode the same. Maybe they can throw 2013 forks, and 2014 frame together type thing and find a way forward. If anyone can, Gigi probably can.
Gents , The problem is two tier : the monoframe road they went for was abandonned halfway for something they don t know shit about : alubeam frames ,, the way they started this road is flawed as that frame was built around an engine that was meant to be hung on a monoframe .. So as long as there is no complete restart to build a balanced package there can be no restoration of competitivness . Because performance is always relative to the competition . And this competition has been honing their package for decades and is now at unseen levels of development.. On top of that , they can pick the top riders as they choose .. How phenominal does one have to be to beat MM on that Honda ? So all now lies in the capable hands of GIGI and Audi s tenacity to see failure as not an option .. Let s enjoy the mastery of MM and JL in slow motion and the scrap for 4th to 10th .. Either there is a new bike in the making now or it wiil be 2015 earliest .,
Ducati have made some massive changes over the past few years and are out of their comfort zone i think. From trellis, which they know inside out, to no frame at all really which I'd have liked them to persevere with, and more recently the beam frames. All the other manufacturers have just been able to evolve a package every year. I doubt even the might of Honda couldn't keep them at the front with such fundamental changes, let alone a bunch of guys in a shed in Italy. They might as well go F1 racing for how much they've moved away from their technical expertise. Fingers crossed they'll have a eureka moment soon and be up the front again.
MM did a racesimulation of 19 laps.. only 2 were in 2:01:00 ... al the rest were 2:00 or better... just to tell..
