What Chain (Security Chain)?

A few of us have these.

Much nicer!

http://securityforbikes.com/torc-ground-anchor.php

Either 16 or 19 will do but depends on how you intend securing the bike.

Best choice is Pragmasis or Almax chain.

Few threads on it on the forum.

 

Got the 19mm Pragmasis myself - http://securityforbikes.com/proddetail.php?prod=P19-x.x -, both 16 and 19mm chains are basically classed as uncroppable as they don't fit in the jaws of the largest of bolt croppers leaving the tea leaf with no option but to use something far noisier to attack your security. Both the Almax and Pragmasis Defneder are the same per metre price wise - but I did get very good help from the owners before buying and bought the whole package - Torc ground anchor, pinch pin (which goes through the rear wheel hub), chain and the Squire lock. The pinch pin means you can use a far shorter chain too which keeps it all off the floor nicely.
I just went for the 19 as it was the biggest really - I wouldn't want to carry either of them around with me.

 

+1

16mm is fine, 19 is heavier.

Plenty of info on their site and Steve (owner) is super helpful.

 

Also should add that the placement of the ground anchor can help massively, while it might take you another minute to lock up your bike, it can make it very difficult for a thief to get a good swing at the chain/lock if you place it up in a corner of your garage.
Put mine in such a place as you can't get at the anchor unless you move the bike, and you can't move the bike because the chain is too short to allow them to spin it out the way. The back wheel stops it being turned too, can't go forward, can't go back, not enough room between the bike and wall bar coming in from straight on top of it. Best I can do while still being able to get access myself.

 

+2 for Pragmasis. Steve is indeed super helpful. He helped me out when I had problems installing (my own fault) and also let me retrospectively buy a package deal Torc ground anchor + 16 mm chain + Untouchable padlock.

I will say the 16 mm is already very heavy, and quite tricky to handle - others have warned it would be easy to clang it against the bike and damage it. I wouldn't want to use a 19mm chain as it would be even more difficult to manipulate, I'd rather risk my bike being stolen ;-)

 

I am putting a hanger on the wall by mine, will make it a lot easier to just slide it over to the pin without picking it up from the floor while leaning over the seat!

 

How nervous were you about whether the chain would reach, the first time you tried securing your bike with that set-up?

 

Was a little, but I had measured it beforehand and Steve had said I can return it if it's not long enough.
Yeah was first time, as only got the bike last week, have had to make do with my disc lock only which is not going to stop them loading it on a van in any way. Hopefully will see at least a few pence off my insurance come renewal, makes it all worth it LOL. It would be funny if it wasn't true, quotes came in at less than a pound difference on Confused.com...

 

Don't fit any ground anchor other than the type you set into your concrete garage floor. It involves more work but well worth it. Those rawl bolted types can be pulled out the fixings like carrots!! Believe me, I've had a bikes nicked and upon 'investigations and interviews' shall we say, I was given a couple of tips.

1. Biggest concrete sunk ground anchor....
2. Biggest fuck off chain you can afford. And you generally get what you pay for here.

 

The Pragmasis site says you should put the chain through the frame and not the wheel so how does that work with the 899,1199?

 

What is the diameter of the spindle?

If you can get a normal broom handle through the axle you can use the pin but you just need the length of spindle plus the chain and padlock surface.

I know an 848 is too narrow but a Multi and I think streetfighter is fine each are different.

Obviously you have no frame to put a chain or security pin through.

If you have not seen them, check out their videos



and Adrian Weber does some good reviews, heres an overview of some of their stuff....

 

Good question, I have two pragmasis chains, one used on the monster, the other on the old 848.
I can't work out away on the pani to go through the frame.
Any one got a solution?

 

one more time.....

the pani doesnt have a traditional frame which means you have the option of chaining though the wheel or using the anti pinch pin through the axle.

have you ever seen the sheel chocks that are anchored and enclosedk? cant remember the name but i looked at them years ago. looked like a steel box that you ride into and a steel pin goes theough the wheel which is shrouded to prevent attack.

 

Just wondered if there was anything new out there people are happy with?

 

Where do you run the chain on the 848?

 

If they are going to take the time to take both my wheels off and carry the rest of the bike to a van, then they almost deserve to have it....
Much more important to have the place the bike is in as secure as possible and have it alarmed (the place, not the bike), so that you are alerted to them being in there.
(I could chain my 848 through the frame with the Almax chain, but it was a real fiddle, so stuck with the wheels)

 

If you want something portable to tie the bike up whilst away, use the Pragmasis 13mm noose chain. The 13mm is most practical and flexible regarding weight and protection. It's still huge compared to the standard rubbish chains in shops so dont underestimate it. YouTube has examples of people trying to crop the 13mm and failing so it's good enough as a deterrant. But that's just what it is - a deterrant to move onto easier bikes.

 

I've got the torch anchor and the almax iv with the abus granit padlock. I like that combo.

 

I ended up with pragmasis chain and anti-theft pin, squire lock and a y-anchor ground anchor. That should make it hard work any wronguns.


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