848 I put my life in the hands of cable ties...is this right?

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by waynem325, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. After getting my bike on Saturday, I had a good look all over and was surprised to see this:
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    It seems a bit bodged to my way of thinking, but it may be common practice on these bikes?
     
  2. My tyre fitter did it to mine when I had a new rear fitted.
     
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  3. If it's the norm then I'll feel a bit better. Just struck me as a cheap/weak link for such a prestigious brand?
     
  4. It's a practice from the racing world and goes back to the first 916s. If you remove the clip you will see how it locks in place, the addition of the tie wrap is belt and braces the has through time become normal. I'm not certain but it might be something that the workshop does as part of the PDI. One was certainly fitted to my Multistrada 1200s and I fitted one to my 748R rear RS axle. Andy
     
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  5. it's best practice. The other side should be the same. The clip ensures that the nut can't come loose and locates into a hole in the spindle. The cable tie ensures that it doesn't come out.
     
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  6. So even if the cable tie came off, the clip wouldn't be lost?
     
  7. No, it's standard I think. Mine has it and all the Ducati's I have seen do
     

  8. in the real world, no, although it is possible.
     
  9. The cable tie is there to stop the clip working loose, the clip itself is there to stop the wheel nut from coming loose.

    Its pretty common practice, my Speed Triple has the same setup, so has the S4R monster swingarm on my project as does my brothers VFR
     
  10. Ah. Thanks guys. On initial inspection it appears the clip is held in place only by the cable tie.
    I'll rest easier knowing the garage hadn't done a quick bodge job, but will continue to check they're still in place (probs put a few spares under the seat too).
     
  11. Looks ok to me, you only need to worry if you see the rear wheel overtake you on the motorway, it'd probably mean your speedo was out thus you're likely to get the odd ticket ;)
     
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  12. If the rear wheel goes faster than the bike then I'll ride that instead ;)
     
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  13. You can use lock wire - looks a bit more profess'. :cool:
     
  14. Lock wired mine... Looks class but that's not a great photo... Cropped it to hell.
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  15. Not if your lock wiring skills are as bad as mine!
     
  16. I'll admit that took me an hour to do.... originally it looked like a metal birds nest... more MongoGP than MotoGP
     
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  17. just had a quick scan at mine. cable ties too. the gaffer has a suberbike racing team upstairs at work and i might ask one of them to lock wire both sides on. i'll see what they say...
     
  18. I do it to all my bikes after seeing it done by Sigma performance years ago when my bike was being serviced. Sometimes the clip is not a totally perfect fit although I doubt it would spring out even then. Belt and braces as others have said, no cause for concern.
     
  19. I wonder why people lockwire the cush drive bolts since it will not stop the nuts loosening
     
  20. I would imagine more for looks but the practical side is it might just prevent a damaged cush drive from eating into the rear hub.

    You would be better off using something like a Talon quick change rear sprocket carrier which has a lip to prevent this completetly

    The sprocket nuts should be replaced each time they are removed and not reused. The top part of the nut is crushed slightly into an oblong shape to effectively make it a locking nut but a couple of uses without replacement will see this being less effective.
     
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