Evening, I suppose this could be asked of any Ducati but as I ride a Multi I might as well ask here. Anyone know how accurate the speedo is? (2011 1200Touring). The reason I ask is the previously on the IOM I had a Blade and a Gixer 1000 and when you got to 120/130mph ish (and yes it is legal over there) you actually felt like you were doing that speed. I took my son out on the Multi recently and being a cheeky 14 year old he accused me of not going very fast. So the next time I took him for a spin I took it up to about 120 on the speedo. It actually struck me that it did not feel as fast as indicated. Could it be that the different riding position over a sports bike and the fact the engine is not screaming be a factor and that the whole thing is just a more relaxed environment which makes it seem slower? Anyone come from a sports bike found the same? I suppose I could follow another bike or my wife in the car to find out or put a speedo healer on the Multi to see but just thought I would ask if anyone has any experience. Disclaimer: Before anyone jumps on me about how irresponsible it is to ride with a kid on the back at that speed, both he and I are quite used to it both having lived on the IOM for years and in two years time he is looking to get a license to become a sidecar passenger with the eventual goal of following me and doing the TT for himself. Cheers Fitz.
Reckon its probably 5-8% but I find even 135 doesnt really feel tat fast, as a little tuck and there is no wind I often find myself close to 3 numbers if fully concentrating on the road and its fairly open and am surprised
It is approx 5% optimistic at worst! indicated 155 was true 145 , sat nav would show 27 28 for indicated 30' indicated 50 is about 46 on sat nav, indicated 100 is about 95 on sat nav
The owners handbook/manual (2010 - 2012 anyway) states that the speedo reads 8% HIGH.....however I did hear something about a flash update that reduced that to 4% (really not sure about that last bit, never seen confirmation).
Wrong. Its 8% optimistic 108mph is actually 100mph. This is a published fact. Note Ducati say the mpg figures are adjusted to give a real mpg. I really don't know why they didn't keep to the real speed. Most bikes inc the blade over read speed. My R32 car and sport line van read 100% accurate to a straight line GPS speedo. My maxus van is really optimistic showing 110 for 94mph, where allowed.
Andy do you have anywhere I can look for this flash improvement to accuracy? I wonder what it does to the mpg figure displayed.
I've emailed a contact who may know otherwise it's a question for a Ducati Dealer. The mileage recorded/displayed is accurate and I imagine that fuel consumption is calculated from that and data from the TPS, fuel map data etc but not speed? CONS.M vs actual MPG shows the onbike calculation to (a) always be optimistic and (b) the level of inaccuracy to vary considerably: Multistrada 1200S Sport (Ducati Multistrada 1200S) | Fuelly ....for every fill up I record the CONS.M figure in 'notes'
Cheers all. I had a speedo healer on the Gixer which made it accurate. Don't think I will worry too much about the Multi if I am honest. I know it is quick enough and can certainly live with a gixer down the twisties without the agony after you stop for a break.
8% for 2010 - 2012 models, changed to 5% for 2013 model - that's what the manuals say. Why the change, I don't know.
Personally over a short distance I do not think sat navs are all that accurate, so many variables with sat navs. I agree I felt like you are going slower on the MTS over all the other bikes I have had, that said it is the first bike I have ridden with a proper wind shield.
Mine s about 5%, easily checked with the GPS. Consistently I see the GPS maybe 3mph slower than the speedo anything above 30mph. at about 70, it's maybe 4mph so 5% seems right. I think there is a rule that speedos must allow for differences and deliberately overhead to ensure you never have one reading slower than actual, cars and bikes. My car is the exact same. It's also an MOT requirement that I think that the speedo must not underestimate. I assume the total mileage isn't impacted, it would be odd if a 10K bike had actually done almost 500 miles less.
The speedo is not part of the MOT. Construction and Use regulations demand that the speedometer can read up to 10% fast but must never read slow. Consequently manufacturers deliberately set them to read in the middle of this range to allow for manufacturing tolerances. This applies to all road vehicles. Most of the older Ducatis I've owned, and many other bikes, read well over the 10% max. My 907ie reads 80 at 70mph, the MTS reads 75 at 70mph.
It's not the distance that will have an effect so much as (a) time - constant speed for a few seconds and you'll get a very accurate reading and (b) the SatNav system itself, the number of Satellite's it's receiving signals from at any one time (also affected by where you are). That's right............and I've confirmed that there is a software fix for the 2010-2012 bikes to reduce the margin of error, I'd heard, to 4% but parity with the 2013 bikes seems more likely - still trying to confirm the actual details of the update but anyone can ask their Delear to check if your bike has had the speedometer software update ;-) The law.... European Union Directive 2000/7/EC set the requirements for speedometer accuracy. There are two main requirements when tested: 1. That indicated speed is never below actual speed. 2. That indicated speed is never above 110%+4 km/h of actual speed. For actual production motorcycles and motor tricycles, the upper limit increases to 110%+8 km/h (but remains 110%+4 km/h for mopeds). So for a production motorcycle rolling at an actual 80 MPH, the indicated speed can't be below 80 MPH, and can't be above 92.97 MPH. As this upper limit is 16.2% higher than actual, a built-in 8% error puts the MTS120 2010-2012 in the middle of the legal range at highway speeds. The now reduced built in error is I would hazard a guess another example of Ducati having listened to owners (way back when there was a lot of speedo talk with everyone unhappy at such a large built in error)
MOT Questions and Answers – 3 - MOT Testing Industry Portal MOTORCYCLE SPEEDO Does my motorcycle require a speedometer for an MOT? If not what milage would the Tester put down on the VT20 or VT12? Phil You will be pleased to hear that the speedometer is not checked in the MOT. The Tester would simply note that the motorcycle has no speedometer. - MOTT FAULTY SPEEDO The speedo on my 1994 Alfa 33 16 v 1.7 Sportwagon fails intermittently. Is a faulty speedometer an automatic MOT failure - Mike Lock The speedo is not checked for the MOT. - MOTT .....as at May 2012 anyway
Technically that's correct. There is no way they could check the accuracy anyway. Here is what's checked Motorcycle Mot Testers Manual-Contents although it's slightly out of date. Oddly a rear numberplate lamp is not an MOT requirement on a bike, although a reflector is. Ach! I see Andy's beat me to it
