pete. stop stirring it up. tell it how it is instead of how it isn't is anyone saying they wont pay back? if you divorce she gets the house and the car are you expected to pay for the servicing as well.
I think thats the point Pete is making: Salmond appears to want us to not only pay for his servicing, but his fuel too
"Toffs"? What century are you living in? Any country in the world can use another country's currency, without having any control over the central bank, the money supply or interest rates, and without any possibility of a bail-out. Examples are Zimbabwe using the South African Rand, Montenegro using the Euro, Caribbean islands using the US Dollar - but these are basket cases. No country would resort to this expedient unless reduced to it out of desperation. This is diametrically different from having joint control over a common currency to the benefit of the participants. "Prices rocket"? The introduction of the Euro certainly did not cause prices to 'rocket'. And currently the Eurozone faces the risk of deflation, not inflation.
Alex Salmond, in his uniquely bumptious style, has threatened that an independent Scotland would not accept its share of the UK national debt, if the rUK does not go along with his wishes on the currency issue. He has been strangely silent about Scotland's share of the corresponding assets. Just pointing this out.
tell that to the French (10% on one day) Greeks (at least that) Spanish - from a cheap country to visit to one on par with UK, was Italy always as expensive as it is now?
@ pete how do we work that out? is it a share based on population? G.D.P? do you understand the concept of negotiation?
Whilst you might be correct, and i sincerely hope you are and that I am being unduly paranoid; can you categorically state you have no fears in this department. Hand on heart? You know it could happen.
in part this may be true Bradders, but people have to accept a responsibility as well - when the euro came to Italy for instance, it was valued at 2:1 for purpose of prices and personal savings conversions. So for instance 2000 lire became 1 euro. But where a cup of coffee for instance cost 1000 lira before, and thus should have cost 50c, everyone proced their coffee at 1 euro. This happened across nearly all sectors and suddenly the cost of living doubled overnight. I do agree with you though that under the euro life was no way as good as the Lira, but times were different then, twenty years ago farm land was a valuable commodity, now you can't give it away. My cousin's family - farmers who ran a butcher's shop also recount that during those days they managed to slaughter four cows and sell all the beef by the end of the week - now they only do one. maybe it all coincided with the world changing, but they certainly blame the change in currency for their misfortune, hailing the euro as the herald of bad times. As things stand, southern Italy is a hard place to live at the moment. I know, standing back from it all, its not as easy as that, of course other factors that a sfarming populace were not privy to or would ever really understand also played a part but you know what I'm getting at. If they do go it alone I hope it works out for Scotland as ultimately the politicians will always be alright, it'll be the poor mug who has to work his nuts off to pay his mortgage and feed his family that will face th brunt of it and paying for it if it doesn't. I spoke to a scot who works with us yesterday- he will vote yes, but ultimately it seemed through all the discussion he was just fed up to the hind teeth of what he saw as out of touch privileged baffoons in westminister making decisions on his nation's future.
You'll will remember that when the French refused to join the US in the Iraq invasion, the Septics were so incensed with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they rechristened French fries "Freedom Fries". Does this mean that if the Scots vote yes, a Scottish egg will become a "good riddance egg"? Actually, I am thinking that if the Scots vote No, there will be huge upswelling of goodwill towards Scotland. The pubs will be going through Scottish like there's no tomorrow. All things tartan will be flavour of the month, and you won't be able to get haggis for love nor money.
It is a convenient soundbite for Wee Eck and plays very well to the target demographic. The fact that it is bollox is neither here nor there, a bit like vote YES to save the NHS.
Unfortunately one sometimes just has to grin and bear things because the alternative may be worse. After all, living in Scotland is not like living in North Korea! A similar decision making process may result in many people voting for UKIP next year but effectively supporting Miliband/Balls & Co, which will probably not be what they want.
although at least the out of touch privileged baffoons in Edinburgh won't be able to do the same to me...
