Newbie needing help and advice

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by k3efh, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. Hope someone can help me

    Just had my 2004 749s serviced and the advisories were a worn clutch basket and a tight spot on the chain.

    Firstly I'm off to Brno in a few weeks so want to get the bike sorted before I go but there is a lack of a haynes manual for the 749 so no real "how to" guide to change the clutch.

    1. Where is the best place to get replacement parts (I assume you change clutch and basket whilst your in there)
    2. How easy is it to change the clutch/clutch basket
    3. Are any special tools required
    4. IS there any guides available similar to a haynes manual?
    5. What the best replacement type of chain?

    Would really appreciate any help on this one please.

    K:frown:
     
  2. i bought a manual on cd for the computer on ebay, dont think it was much about £6-£7 or so. pretty sure you need a specail tool to remove the clutch too. ive also recently replaced my sprockets and chain with renthal stuff from a company called AR racing (ebay again, paid £129 delivered)think they are devon direction. i would just buy ducati genuine parts if you want play it safe, might not be as expensive as you think . happy hunting
     
  3. Check the carlsalter.com website for a free copy of workshop manual.
     
  4. About right for a chain , clutch is another matter, nog, or nogaromill probably has the parts you need, apart from getting the large nut off the clutch (hold the basket with an old timing belt and use an impact gun) the only other special part is a fat wallet! i use SPR Racing nottm for my bits, chain as well their no is 0115 9216958 (sam) and they will post, they probably have plates in stock.
     
  5. Speak to Nog on this forum for parts:upyeah:
     
  6. Like the others have said, speak to Nog. I'm sure he posted not long ago that he was doing a deal on Barnet clutch kits (basket & Plates) for £150. Bargin!! if so may get myself one as I too very worn clutch basket. Used Nog before and very helpful and quick delievery too. From memory the only specialist tool required is a clutch holding tool. Many have said that this can be done by putting into 6th and a second person on the rear brake. Never tried this myself. The tools you can get on Flea bay for about £80.
    Generally not a difficult job. Get some clutch cleaner too and give it a good clean out.
     
  7. That was kind of you...popping a copy in the post to k3efh :upyeah: Or did I just imagine that bit? :wink:
     
  8. Thanks for the help guys!!
     
  9. Changing the clutch plates is a piece of piss. Take the plates out and keep them in order, then put the new plates in in the reverse order, put the pressure plate back on and nip up the bolts just past finger-tight. Less than an hour for a beginner.

    Oh, and if you see a silver Triumph Sprint and a red 1098S fly past you on the way to Brno, give us a wave! (Or try to keep up...)
     
  10. hi, i changed complete clutch on my 748 without any spec tools. the only one you would really need is the dynamo-metric wrench. I changed the original one to stm clutch with the 48 tooth basket. The clutch was delivered with step by step manual. You don't need to change the basked each time you change the plates. That depends how used are the parts however if you intend to keep and use the bike for long time I would recommend to change the basket as well. Be aware that the baskets are quite expensive. To help the clutch to last longer you can open it (install open clutch cover).
    I can't advise where to get the clutch this days as I got mine in 2007.
    For the chain and sprockets, i suggest to by the parts at B&C Express | Arrow Exhausts, Renthal Sprockets, Tsubaki Chains, Motorcycle Accessories i got some spares from them and all was always ok. The also have good tech support.
    Myself I put d.i.d. chain of 520 size however i believe that 525 or 530 will also be ok. Remember that the sprockets needs to be of the same type (520, 525, 530) as the chain.
     
  11. I changed my complete clutch assembly for an MPL basket and Barnett plate kit not that long ago. It was an OK ish job to do, however the following may be worth thinking about:

    Clutch holding tool - you can buy one, but they're quite dear. I took 3 or so of the scrap, plain plates and bolted them together, then bolted a 12" length of unistrut to them to form a handle. Worked a treat.
    The clutch basket nut is torqued up to a monumental setting and is a bastard to get off. I ended up with a 2m long extension "handle" attached to an old ratchet, and this finally shifted it after much grunting. As the re-torque-ing setting is beyond the capacity of any normal human being I used the same rig for tightening it, and stood on the end of the extension handle whilst my lad steadied the bike.
    Stack height is quite critical - i ended up having one new friction plate left over, and used an old plain plate to get it right.

    It was an afternoon's work, and has been fine (and much quieter) ever since.
     
  12. clucth plates and basket change is not hard at all

    as above get service manual form carlslater or buy a haynes book of lies. you can get the parts list for your bike from the servce section on the ducati website

    parts from nogromill seem to be reccomended, you can also buy oem ducati parts from motorapido if you prefer

    machine mart do a ducati clutch hoding tool for a whopping £6.82 + postage (mail order only)
    Laser 5340 - Ducati Clutch Hub & Drum Tool - Machine Mart

    key thing is to not over tighten the bolts that hold the pressure plate they only need 5-6nm i think and DO NOT use thread lock on these (i think u need thread lock on the basket nots though)
    ducati reccomend replacing the bolts the hold the basket if you remove them
     
    #12 funkatronic, Aug 7, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2012
  13. Looks like a great tool for the money, even to use only once.
     
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