They swelled and distorted out of shape.. Sport classic, multi, monsters etc. Most replaced FOC but not all. Have a look at what price the new type tanks (replacements) sell for on ebay Triumph dealt with the problem quickly.
On pay day, il treat myself to some fine dining, end of the month its bread with brown sauce. Being on tour the holy grail is a bottle of fresh, cold water, we gave up a sock to put over the bottle and waste some water to soak the said sock so that through evaporation it would cool the liquid inside, at the other end of the scale its chlorine water thats at boiling point from a water bouser and then even further to the right is water out of a ditch, bang in a couple of puri tabs and stand by for the shits. what has this got to do with this thread u ask? Suck it in people, if your bike needs fuel to make it move, give it fuel. if ur plush then drive further to a better station and put the most expensive liquid gold in the tank to burn that u can afford. if money is short, go to a cheaper place/maybe even go for stanard fuel not that gucci shite with a cool name. and if times are hard and you really really must have fuel......go to shell, keep sat on the bike and brim the bastard. walk with confidence and perpose into the shop, up to the counter and oh shit u left ur wallet at home, bummer gonna have to fill in some paper work and come back in no later than 10 days. and if u havent got the minerals for that and need fuel then ur gonna have to not ride the bike. FFS its not a big tank and lets face it riding a bike is generally a hobby or a luxury. The throttle doesnt need to be twisted that far or that fast, be more efficient with the gas and the breaks and the gears to get more miles for ur buck. If none of this helps.....get a push bike boom
That's interesting to me, I just did about 1000 miles around France over the weekend and my bike has been backfiring quite a lot. The fuel there was designated 95 E10 I think but it was all that was available at most garages. When it stops raining again I will discover if the bike returns to normal after a flush through of good old british petrol :wink:
Would be good to know if you find the same results when you switch back. Recommend trying 1 tank of SUL.
Some interesting comments that certainly could induce a few arguments on here, i dont like the way the article generalises engines, most motorcycle and all ducati engines are high performance by their very nature, these have NOT got knock sensors like cars so cannot be treated the same. i would reccomend using the best you could afford. the article uses american fuels as a basis for argument where the product is most definately different to uk gas. i do also like the last paragraph (disclaimer). let the argument roll.
I always found excess valve and piston crown damage having used a higher octane than necessary..........but I will admit that was in the days of leaded petrol. And.....what I also find odd is that at one stage I was messing with engines running on ethanol without any damage to seals etc, however I supsect those seals weren't synthetic. Imagine that if you will....a 500 Velocette with a Wal Philips fuel injector and ethanol....you couldn't tell if it knocked because it only fired once every lamp post..............It ran better on petrol, though. AL.
fibreglass and composite tanks, wonderful aren't they! As far as all that malarky is concerned the question to ask is not whether it's fibreglass or carbon but whether its epoxy or polyester resin holding it all together. Fibreglass normally has polyester resin as the medium, and polyester generally doesn't like petroleums - as for carbon tanks they're the same, the weave you see has micro porosity and over time the tank weeps or sweats fuel - but that could take ages to manifest. The majority of tank proofers are actually vinylester resins which has a resistance to petrol, but again its not really advisable. the reality is that for racing it doesn't matter that much because you would generally run your tank dry or empty it at the end of a race, but on road vehicles its a bit different. In an ideal world it would have a fuel cell in it, like an atl or similar but these are stupid money and have to be replaced every ten years regardless. Composite tanks come into their own when you've got complicated shapes that are difficult to fabricate, but otherwise ali or stainless is probably the best, cheapest and safest option. I suppose an interesting question as had been touched on is whether there is a point where the detergents found in SUL, are actually overkill on our engines. For me, I often ask whether (based on me using a reputable brand of fuel like shell to start with) I can feel enough difference within my riding capability to justify the 9p hike per litre knowing that the regular unleaded is good enough already in both octane and detergent aspects.
Forgive my ignorance but what is E10? Whatever it is my bike doesn't like it !! I've had 2 tanks of good old normal 95 since my lasy post and my bike is indeed back to normal. But worryingly I noticed I used a fair bit of oil on my french trip (from max to min) of 1000 miles and previously my bike was pretty oil tight. Since she's stopped backfiring she has returned to not loosing oil, so I'm assuming some oil was getting lost whilst backfiring. Certainly won't be using E10 if it's coming here , will have to start using 98.
Unleaded with 10% ethanol (we currently have E5) It's only a matter of time before SUL (97 or 98) starts getting the ethanol treatment.
A quote from historic vehicle club newsletter and shortcut to the article. STOP PRESS In the last issue of the newsletter we stated that Shell V-Power petrol was guaranteed not to contain ethanol. Just before this newsletter went to press we have discovered that this is no longer the case. Their statement says: ‘Shell, like many other fuel suppliers, has begun blending ethanol into some Unleaded grades, including Shell V-Power at Stanlow, to comply with the legal obligations of the RTFO’ (Renewable Transport Fuel Obligation) Newsletter Download – Complete (pdf)
I can't comment specifically about V-Power loaded at Stanlow. V-Power at Stanlow is on a different loading gantry to the other SUL (there is only one SUL gantry at Stanlow and that is not supplied with ethanol.) It is possible, therefore, that V-Power ex Stanlow has 5% ethanol (rising to 10% soon no doubt) It is also still the case that the SUL loading arms at all the midlands terminals do NOT have ethanol supply lines fitted yet. It will happen though.
We will soon find out if there is a noticeable difference between Shell Regular Unleaded and Shell Premium Unleaded.......had to fill up with the latter, because the Regular pump was empty....... .......fairly quickly I found that it didn't feel the same at 40mph......Best description 'Erratic'..... AL
I know this thread is fairly old, but tried a tank of super unleaded today, and noticed the difference straight away, especially at 30mph in 3rd gear, usually it doesn't like it, and is jumpy and generally its not smooth, however today pootling in traffic seemed really good, M25 was usual car park, so wasn't able to stretch the Mutleys abilty, but early results are good,
I use v-power wherever i can but not all shell garages where i travel stock it, so as a precaution when using a high comp piston like the JE etc i crop a couple of mm from the top and head for approx 10.75 - 11 to 1, but keeping the squish quite tight, just to give me a chance if i cannot get top premium fuel, Using the v power i have had no problems at all, this also allows me to use the bike in europe with no issues. As for starter issues i have had many, my best mod here was an Ignitech that allows a retarded timing below 400 rpm. that and an Odyssey batt fixed all probs., even on a 980.
