No idea. Think its to do with its size, assume bigger piston make the difference?? Which changes the position and/or weight ever so slightly. And 848 riders want the adj rod because they cant reach the floor
Is rather be a tight arse than have a loose one. I guess that's what happens if you go for the 1098?! :Nailbiting:
Dare I say...I didn't like the 848 that I took for a spin from DM...found it rev happy and vibrated more than my 996 I have a 1098s and as someone already stated the grin factor when opening her up is tremendous... As for the 848 faster point to point....doesn't that depend on rider more than the bike?? I had a 749 a few years ago and found that I wanted ( not needs nor actually used) more power.... Sure I will get slapped down for daring to dislike the 848 but I have said in the past it reminded me of my old R6,,,rev happy track tool, uncomfortable but bonkers....the 848 not being as bonkers as the R6...
Not at all. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion even if it's wrong Seriously though. That's why it's important to ride a bike or bikes before making up your mind. We all have ideas about what the perfect bike is don't we
But the bigger pistons mean a bigger hole (bore) so the cylinders should weigh less to compensate? Either way, I don't know the weight difference between the small and big engine but I doubt it's much...
Indeed they do and I doubt the few mm stroke makes any real difference to the weight. A 748 engine is both shorter stroke and smaller bore than a 916 but as it uses the same (?) cylinder castings I doubt the weight difference is much despite the smaller pistons. I think the main difference in weight was down to the lack of oil cooler and subsequently slightly less oil, the only other differences IIRC was a narrower rear and lower profile front tyre, yet the journos of the day would rave at how much better the 748 handled when, in the real world, the first tyre change and a bit of twiddling of the setup would make them essentially the same. Similarly in the case being discussed, I presume an 848 has both a smaller bore and shorter stroke than a 1098/1198 but I imagine all the major castings are the same (?) and doubt you could tell which engine which was which just by lifting them off the ground and judging the amount of 'grunt' required?
i rode a 1098 and 848 back in 2010. Purchased a 848 as it was easier to ride fast for me and i could afford a new one opposed to a used 1098. 1098 had bags of torque and was a bit of an animal from memory
I'm a bit late to this thread but just had to quote what Andy has said here, so so true and exactly what I feel every time I take mine out! IMHO 1098s all the way any day of the week! Stu
Cheers all I've now got the bike, we'll sort of it's gone for a service so I've seen it for about 20 mins in total. just hoping for a dry salt free day so I can go for a play. Regarding whatever they have put on the tyres. It looks/feels like silicone not an ideal substance to put on a tyre! They also had their own number plate made up (with the dealers name on) that was the wrong reg number. Not doing very well so far!
Without a doubt a future classic that will prove to be very, very popular. The last of the real bikes before we became reliant on modern technology!:Kiss: