Muck-off

Discussion in 'Detailing and cleaning' started by scsialan, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. @749si u cant clean a bike with acf50 (in fact quite the opposite)
     
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  2. Fairy liquid? No womder your bikes look like sheds! You must like the swirl affect on all your plastics
     
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  3. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I recall that there used to be 2 types of Muc Off several years back. The normal, and the heavy duty "moto" Muc Off which was for dirt bikes. This was quite harsh on road bike stuff compared to the normal gear and would mark black plastic and anodising if allowed to dry on the machine.
    I've used the normal stuff on my bikes for years without any adverse effects.
     
  4. Being as I had already jumped the gun and brought 10 Liters of the stuff, I had better give it a go.
    Think I will leave the Ducati out of this trial and just use it on the Tiger XC.
     
  5. SDOC is very good, if a little pricey for regular use. There's a new product to market I've been trying from ProGreen MC. Seems to do the job well enough. Good prices to.
    The killer with MucOff is that the active ingredient in the stuff is very alkaline.... like pH 11 "very". That's caustic levels! It, and a few other products have always sold on the "acid free" banner (remember wonder wheels). Yeah, no lies there then.
    The ProGreen is pH "neutral" around 6 or 7 and this is what you need to look for on cleaning product. The products that are, are make a point of stating it, rather than going on about being acid free ;)
    I can see tell tale signs on the bikes that come thru the workshop where MucOff or other rebranded "pink" product has been used. It's very obvious when you start looking. Staining on anodised parts (silver swingarms show up really bad), black hangers/brackets, chain corrosion, the plating on fasteners and the threads when they're undone (doesn't get rinsed out). It looks like heavy salt damage...it isn't always. The finish is screwed and it's permanent.
    I hate the stuff.......... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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  6. That's the stuff. Spoke with them at the Classic bike show in January. They've just hooked up with a couple of large trade distributors so it should hit market now. Do a few cleaning/care products that I've tried. So far, seems to do what it says on the tin.
     
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  7. Castrol Greentech is the bomb.
     
  8. Interesting the dodgy MucOff reviews, I guess I dont wash the bike enough to cause any issues!! All the same I might go easy on where I'm using it a bit after hearing this.
     
  9. Seems to get good reviews but I have not seen the PH balance Nelly talks about.
     
  10. If you've bought a load just water it down and make sure you rinse off really well
     
  11. i found that to be much like Muc off in terms or the streaks it would leave on my engine cases
     
  12. I have a 5 litre container of Muc Off which I now use only very sparingly and wash off very quickly with lots of water.

    It is interesting what nelly says about corrosion around threads.
     
  13. Bit of a deal on in M & P's , picked some up to try .

    SDOC 100 Gel Cleaner
    1 Litre & 1Litre Re-Fil £16.99 ...
     
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  14. Swirl effect..? Please expound.
     
  15. Will do
     
  16. It has little crysals in it, its like swarfega but smaller, and if you wash the usual sponge swirls it, over time, will cut into paint and leave a swirl effect often noticable in bright sunlight.
     
  17. I didn't mean clean it as such but once the bike is clean it helps to keep it in good nick imho of course.
     
  18. I use ACF50 in winter even when the bike is unridden to prevent moisture coming into contact with metallic parts. Has to be said though, it does leave a thick, messy residue and Muc-Off shifts it without using degreaser. Are the non-aggressive SDoC and Pro-Green just as good? I don't use degreaser often, usually on back wheel and swinging arm to clean up film left by chain lube, but I wonder what it does to seals, O-rings and painted surfaces. I like Muc-Off chain cleaner for this job, it cuts through gunge like a knife but evaporates rapidly and therefore you can get through it so it isn't cheap.
     
  19. I've just received mine but it was £20 delivered from M&P via eBay I shall be testing it tomorrow on my poor sports tourer.
     
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