There is only one state in the Middle East that wants all people in the region to get on with their lives in peace and security - and that is Israel. There is only one state in the Middle East that when it responds to the pretty much constant barrage of missile sent into its territory by its neighbours tries to avoid causing civilian casualties or targeting schools - and that is Israel. There is only one state in the Middle East that respects the right of all the other states in the region to exist - and that is Israel. The is only one state in the Middle East whose biotech and medical knowledge helps to improve the lot of human beings worldwide - and that is Israel. There is only one state in the Middle East whose government practises remotely democratic principles - and that is Israel. There is only one state in the Middle East that never initiates attacks on its neighbours - and that is Israel. There is only one state in the Middle East that has never spawned a suicide bomber - and that is Israel. And your point is? That we should be supporting the Shia savages who deny Israel's right to exist?
They certainly do - but the trouble is if you have a faith that defends acts of barbarism you are always at the mercy of those who feel entitled to change society for what they think is the better by whatever means they choose. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and it's the only non-Muslim state. Do you think that is a coincidence? Democracy and Islam are mutually exclusive. Any Muslim who says he is a democrat is a former Muslim - and good luck to them. They are heroes in my book.
Have to confess I don't know much about the Society of Friends. I shall look them up. I would consider myself an agnostic. I neither believe nor conclusively disbelieve. Its not the concept of personal belief in a creator (or non-belief) I have trouble with, its the cult of organised religion - entirely man-made phenomena for entirely Earthly purposes.
I would love you to read the following and tell me why Israel should not stay where it is, unless, of course, you can prove that the awarding of Nobel Prizes is influenced by Zionists. The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the world population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1988 - Najib Mahfooz Peace: 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat 1994 - Yaser Arafat Chemistry: 1999 - Ahmed Zewa TOTAL: 4 The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 0.02% of the world population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson 1958 - Boris Pasternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World Peace: 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin Physics: 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1952 - Felix Bloc h 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Donald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1972 - William Howard Stein 1973 - Brian David Josephson 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Roald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 - Robert Huber 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1989 - Sidney Altman 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1992 - Rudolph Marcus 1995 - Martin Perl 2000 - Alan J. Heeger Economics: 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Milton Friedman 1978 - Herbert A. Simon 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Markowitz 1990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Robert Fogel Medicine: 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jaco b 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1995 - Edward B. Lewis TOTAL: 129 Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims. Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics. The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels. Perhaps Muslims should consider investing more in education for their citizens and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems. Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbours, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel's part, the following two sentences must surely change your mind: If the Muslim Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. Is it any wonder that a tribe of 14,000,000 people feel threatened when a tribe of 1,200,000,000 people deny their right to live?
merely saying that Israelis may be the nicest most intelligent peaceful people on the planet but their occupation of a region may have a little bearing on that state of play today.. england america japan russia and so on may have more technology and boast more noble prize winners than the poorer countries on this planet but does that give them the right to take by force?
they dont have to create too much as they are supplied by their allies and boast some of the most advanced weaponry and special forces on the planet (maybe rightly so...) and as far as the jews not brainwashing their kids why is there still compulsory service in Israel (for men and women)? maybe because if given the choice the youth might decide on finding a peaceful solution
Did Israel take land by force then? They have made the desert bloom: it's very obvious when you visit the region which country is spending its limited resources on peaceful activities and which are spending their vast oil resources on exporting terror all over the world. The Jews did not walk into the region in 1947 - like Hitler did in Poland or Putin did in Crimea, Dagestan and Ukraine - they were relocated there by the international community. And they've been struggling stay there. I think as a cultured people they should have been given Austria as it spawned Hitler!
For God's sake Chiz!!! They are under constant threat from their inimical neighbours and their very right to exist has been questioned by a state that will soon become a nuclear power. They need all the soldiers they can get. I would have thought that was obvious!
weather they walked in there or were placed there by the un is of little importance to the millions living in the gaza strip (noy by choice but one of the most densly populated regions there is) with their every movement, import and power decided by there "peaceful" neighbors. the irish didnt take to kindly to it and despite your views on Islam (which i share to a degree) why should they? it may be an historical injustice but for a people forced to exist in squalor it is not one that is going away
