As above gents.....just got my 2014 zed thou and its got the above plumbed into it. I hate bike alarms, everytime weve been to the TT for the last 5 years theres always a bike sitting on its own with the alarm going off or, theres someone standing next to it fiddling, with, the alarm going off....I really don't want to be that person (not that its going to the TT, its not for that...) but I still don't want to be in that scenario all the same. Is there any removal procedure? I don't want to remove it and all the wiring and find theres something that the alarm has done to the ignition that stops it being started after its been removed...or, is it that simple, im guessing theres a loom of some sort in there that's attached to different points on the bike, its definitely integrated as when you blip it off both the indicator lights flash....I must add that its not factory fitted - the bike was bought and then it was fitted after - I gather these are fitted at the factory on Triumphs... Its a bit early at the moment but I will call Datatool this morning and see if they can help but I cant see that much coming from them as, well, most of the google searches ive done are random posts from people saying theyre shit.... And if I do remove it - anyone want a Datatool s4! not that ive made the best pitch!
Depends on how it's been installed I guess. Moto-R just removed my evo 3 during a service and it was dead easy apparently (makes having an alarm somewhat of a waste of time IMO!). They key, I think, is to ensure the wiring is made good and protected properly to ensure you don't create future problems in the loom... My datatool peeped sadly in the shed for several days after removal, and I almost felt sorry for it. Then I remembered what a monumental PITA having it was... An alternative is to bridge some links inside the alarm itself to disable it internally but leave it in place. Datatool were actually very helpful when I emailed them to ask about this. YAMV and YMMV of course ;-) cheers!
Wantz removed his and thee in the field next door where it continued to beep for days Not much help sorry but it was only a half hour job with the two wires under the battery that had to be re connected
Yeah - I think this one is....in there....so im going to have to strip a load of bits off to get to it....its becoming plainly apparent that before I can do any of the stuff I want to its, got to come out first....shitter....I could start my mods but I think itll just keep going off and trying to re arm itself....it just infuriates me that its in there in the first place....why anyone would want one I don't know...based on the problems that occur (for lots of people) and what ive seen myself. The lad I bought it off didn't really know anything about bikes and has ran it through the winter and from what I can see not cleaned it (the bits you cant see) atall. So, it looks like the underside is caked in dried salt, dirt etc etc...so I need to get the alarm out then I can start stripping it... Plus whoever installed has drilled into the rear bit by the light to put one of those cheap red led's in there as well....arggghhh! Ive got a near as dammit brand new bike but its going to be a couple of week til it can show its face outside of the garage!!
Have removed several and if you are at all wiring savvy then you will enjoy it as unless yours is different, it's all logical. Did a mates SV650 last year for two cups of Tea. The route of around 4 ignition/running related wire runs are interrupted so all you need to do is bridge these with fresh good quality wire and insulate with heat shrink ( I double this up).
im hoping that I can just unplug the main unit, wedge it in some pillows til the battery runs out and then trace all the wiring and remove, re solder and heat shrink all the areas where it was attached...
If I can remove it, save all the wiring, and then flog it on that would be nice as itll go towards stuff that's actually worth putting on...
Bit confused - that is what I do? Maybe I should have explained in full detail, I snip the wire where the data tool wire is connected before I bridge it.
So - just to ask to verify - I should be able to unplug the noisy bit.....and then follow the wiring back and disconnect....theres nothing that the datatool will have done that would stop the bike starting once removed....it doesn't interferre with the oem ignition/ecu??
Right - so you follow the wiring back to a point, remove that said wire, solder and heatshrink and then move on to the next...
The above is certainly true of all of the bikes that have worked on - no the ECU is not interfered with internally either physically or electrically. Goes without saying that you disconnect the battery before you start which may mean that some form of resetting May be needed when reconnected depending on the bike
Just trace the wires. Some will tap into a wire and others will bridge (the original will be cut). If it is a good install a section may have been cut out to prevent reconnecting the original wires. You will need to link these wires with new (soldered and shrink tube). Normally two of the starting circuits are bridged this way. As all the wires are black you will need to label them if you intend to sell the alarm.
Yeah - the nightmare scenario I was/am dreading is removing the alarm, then finding its done something to the stock oem ignition and ecu so I cant start the bike and then have to refit the alarm to undo what its done...
You need fresh wire to bridge though don't forget. You could use random bits of the data tool wire (usually black) but often the ones I worked on have had such poor quality soldering that you want to start totally afresh.
Anyway as 'overlapping' has now begun I will sign off now it really is quite simple I wish you luck cheers
I took mine off a few years back,its hard to recall which wires went where.However,Im NO expert but the simplicity of it meant that I was able do it quite easily!Take your time and be logical.If remembering correctly,mine all unplugged/came away leaving one connection needing bridging(fuel pump) and a feed from +ve,in my case rear brake switch,tidying.Good luck.
Thanks for your help Chris. I must say although I've not got a duc at the moment this is THE most active helpful forum I've ever been on....I'll be tidying the garage first before I get started...thanks again.
I've got some really good wire from work that's being used to wire up the KTM....literally...weapons grade!
