Why thank you, sir. I truly appreciate your kind offer but alas, I must refuse. I didn`t realise I had made any wild claims of knowing how to sort the Ducati`s waywards handling, any flashes of wisdom you may have seen in my post were, in fact, unintentional. In all honesty, I was only idly shooting the breeze, I just thought I would mention something related to the subject in the hope someone else might say "yes, I`ve seen that" or "no, your mistaken." Obviously to be able to make such a generous offer in the first place you must be the top engineering headhunter for Ducati.............or maybe just a total arse. Oh well, there goes my future at Ducati Corse.
All bollox it just needs someone to rag it's arse out out from under it. I seriously think all the team members that rode alongside Stoner saw they couldn't compete against him and were beaten to start with. Rossi was knackered from the off because it wasn't as "easy" as he thought . And the Ducati engineers are now trying to meddle with a faulty machine. Bin it, go back to trellis, which can be strenghtened either with more bracing or thicker tube ,base the geometry on proven race winning bikes from all the manufacturers, there must be a common geometry similar between them. Start from there and quick.
The Rag it's arse worked well! But even Stoner's luck ran out in the end (walking away from huge crash's)
In the end? It ran out on something like lap 5, Qatar, 2009. First race of the season on a control tyre. Prototype bikes should not have a control tyre, as they limit the scope designers have in designing their bike, which flies in the face of prototyping. We can thank VR and his dumping Of Michelin for this mess. Everyone else followed him leaving Michelin with nothing, so why bother? He should have trusted Michelin to sort it out. You know, maybe repay them for what they had done for him over the years. Magic carpet tyres etc. But that would mean showing some loyalty, like he did to Honda, Yamaha, Ducati........
Mercenaries almost never show any loyalty. Not in bike racing, not in football. They only keen on winning. Maybe that's what it takes.
Do you know I am pleased Rossi's gone from Ducati but I also dont blame him one bit. Glid is spot on he's a mercenary and why not, it's his arse on the line, he's taken the glory in the past and I dont blame him for that (just not my cup of tea the way he goes about it) I sort of hope he is pretty much back up to speed on the Yam, it'll be what Ducati need to see to wise them up and go back to basics.
Seems to me that at the end of the day, mercenaries are more interested in the money than the winning. Rossi's move was the racer's choice, not the mercenary's
I think what Glid means is that Rossi is mercenary with his attitude to win i.e. jumping ship not his need for the best pay deal.
Isn't winning what racing is all about at the top level? See now i think Dovi may adapt better to the Desmo than Rossi.
Baah. Glidd's hepped up on goofballs. Rossi wants nothing more than a comfy seat to sit on. Each team gradually removes more and more of the foam from his comfort seat over time so he has to start again with another team every so often. That's all there is to it.
Oh well, can all you Stoner v Rossi types go on another thread, there are lots on here.Thanks. if the bike could have been sorted it would have been by now with all the engineering talent & changes that have been thrown at it, the front tyre issue is spurious, it obviously works for the other teams. everything but the motor design has been changed, personally i stand by my guess that it is the problem, so will never be fully resolved.
No element of motorcycle set up exists in a vacuum. Everything affects everything else. Yes, that's obvious. The shape of the engine of the Desmo is very different from every other bike out there, so the compensating measures to accommodate it are not going to resemble those of other teams. Hence the issue over tyres, chassis and such. There's only so many ways you can sensibly fit an L-four into a bike, particularly a GP bike, so you are going to have fewer options in terms of engine positioning - consequently, the tweaks that Honda or Yamaha use are not going to be available to Ducati. Bologna is stuck in design channels and design difficulties not experienced by the other teams. It may simply be impossible to make the L-four work with out access to technologies and design solutions currently not allowed in MotoGP. That's my over-priced two-penneth. Oh. And the idea of a control tyre for prototype racing - genius. Idiots.
Anyone who has ridden a Ducati twin sportsbike knows how different they are to ride than pretty much all other bikes. They feel much longer, lower and flatter and much of that is down to the 90 deg V as i understand it. Surely if the Motogp bike has the same 90 deg V it must have the same inherent feel?
