A quick question.. On a jap bike you buy a can, unbolt OE can, bolt on new Akro (or other), go ride.. Now I understand with the 899 things aren't that simple. You unbolt OE, put on Termis, plug in up-map and then ride? Do they need activating as such? Is is all plug and play? Does the ecu automatically recognise the up-map? When the parts are fitted can you just ride as is, bit like before putting on power commander and going to see the dyno man?
Fitting is pretty straight forward,unbolt old cans, bolt on new, but you remove the servo valve motor and cables, from memory the dealers have to activate the up map on the 899.
Ok so gave Riders in Bristol a ring. Once all parts are fitted Ducati dealer needs to unlock the ECU/download a map to get the fuelling approximate. (Obviously only a custom map & dyno runs is going to be fully correct, but its part way there). Apparently in the same way as the ole Jap bikes, you can bolt all the parts on and carry on using it, albeit it may run a little lean and they reckon the idle may be a bit out etc. Looks like time to experiment and get unbolting/bolting up and release the thunder....
Took me a couple of hours to fit my termis, then took mine to Italia in a the van to have the upmap loaded up. I was advised against riding it even the 30 miles to the dealers until the map was loaded.
Are the cans going on a new(ish) bike? I only ask because on my '62-plate 2000 mile 1199 the bolts holding the cans to the 'Y' exhaust section were seized on solid. I had to take the standard cans, plus that 'Y' piece to a local garage to have them drilled out. So that meant removing the rear exhaust header which in turn meant lifting the tank and rear subframe to be able to access it. Whilst there I had them take the welds off the flapper valve so I could remove it completely, so that was a silver-lining to the problem I guess. If everything comes off/goes on ok then yes it's a fairly simple job, but nowhere near as straight forward as literally slipping on an end can on a jap bike! So does the 899 not come with the up-map key then like the 1199? If so it is ridiculously easy to upload and doesn't warrant a trip to the dealer. You just plug the key in, turn the ignition on, the bike then recognises the new key and asks you to confirm the up-map, you do this, it downloads, you un-plug the key and job done. Just search Panigale up-map on Youtube as there's a chap on there showing the process. Of course, the 899 could be completely different but if not then it's got to be one of the easiest upgrades you can do yourself.
Been some interesting research on can fitment. Seems a typical 50/50 split on whether you can ride the bike without the up-map. A lot of the American sites suggest it makes no odds and that comes from a dealer too. That aligns with the Jap bikes. Yes its a benefit to dyno them and get them spot on, however they run 85% right and i know very few people who dyno Jap bikes after fitting a can, let alone air filters etc. Most people are happy to download a map from the web for their PC3/5. Having said that i had my GSXR set up on the Dyno and released 7bhp. That was with PC3, Akro, Pipercross race filter, so good gains to be made. So to the Termis. If the seller removes the Termis (ie. now secondhand) and sends the code back to the up-map key, then all is good. But the original bike must be back on std map. the map cannot be run on 2 bikes. If you dont have the map, then there are non OE Ducati dealers that can upload a similar map to the ECU that replicates the Up-Map. Some suggest by using the map it evens out the running at low rpm, which lets face it, is pretty snatchy. Its hard to decide on 1st or 2nd in 30's.. So the research suggests to go with what the individual decides. I guess when people own Ducatis, they follow the dealer advice to the letter, buying only oe parts etc. Not the case with Jap bikes. Its a steep learning curve this Ducati ownership, where you need to filter and check advice..
Hi Matt, they're going on a 14 plate 899, so fingers crossed and ever the optimist, it'll be fine!! Otherwise, big hammer will come out..... watch this space
It might be worth checking you're able to undo those three bolts before you plan to fit the cans, maybe give them a squirt of WD40 while you're there!
