V A G, Ducati And Sceptic Tank Lawsuits

Discussion in 'Ducati General Discussion' started by johnv, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. still dont know which part of the test have failed yet. it wont be mpg.
     
  2. Exact Reading ECU's - Mmmmm :p
     
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  3. If you listen carefully you can hear a multitude of shredders going like the clappers :D
     
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  4. Corrected for you.
     
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  5. emmissions.png Tee hee, doesn't take long eh?
     
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  6. they have been working on it a while, could it be the final solution?.
     
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  7. There will be a lot of jumping up and down by VW owners in a bit when their cars road tax band is adjusted to take into account the actual emissions the cars producing. Their not going to be happy if it moves up a band and costs more to tax.
     
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  9. Or buggers up their company car tax...
     
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  10. The EU tests are done by independent testers who take cars they the testers choose off the production line as they are made. There are no issues with EU built cars.
     
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  12. ppi will be a thing of the past,we will all be pestered with phone calls starting with "have you ever owned or thought about owning a vw car in the last ten years !!!!!.Strange thing is we only last week purchased a golf gtd,£20 a year road tax for a 2litre 184bhp car.
     
  13. My missus works for HMRC and she's getting excited already!
     
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  14. The UK Vehicle Excise Duty bands are based on CO2 emissions. The controversy in America relates to Nitrogen Oxides emissions. So probably not.
     
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  15. VAG emissions are similar to all other manufacturers. If they are cheating, so is everyone else.
    I bet the government know too, and they wont care if cars are been sold in record numbers, which they are.
     
  16. The US is very litigious and this will badly damage the VW/Audi group and brand, especially in North America. Car and bike manufacturers tweak the engine settings and do all they can to legally scrape through various European teats and the method is universally recognised as being totally unrepresentative of real world driving. My Golf GTE has the ludicrous figures of 166mpg and 37g CO2. In the real world it does about 43mpg and the real CO2? So has the UK government been cheated out of road tax and company car tax by the cheat figures?

    But VW have gone a lot further; by introducing a defeat program into the ECU, that recognises when the car is plugged in and being tested, that is a very different matter. Hence $18Bn expected fines from US government and then what about group actions by owners looking for compensation and payback for the increased devaluation of their vehicles? Then there are the rest of the 10+ million vehicles affected worldwide. This is going to be HUGE....
     
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  17. " cant understand what all the fuss is ? " well perhaps you should as the president ( sor , ex president ) of VW,, i think he knows !!
     
  18. Nitrous oxide levels are what it failed on. Most car manufacturers use an urea-injection system called adblue, which uses a chemical catalyst to make sure unburnt fuel doesn't get into the exhaust. VW were the only ones not using it, yet still appearing to meet emissions. Suspicions on how were looked into and they took the VW's out on the road for about 4000km. Vehicles massively exceeded limits so they looked deeper.

    Investigators find a piece of software labelled 'the switch'. It's clever. It tracks the position of the steering wheel, vehicle speed, how long the engine is on and barometric pressure. If these inputs match the ones commonly found in vehicle testing, the calibration was switched.
     
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  19. That's was from an article on business insider.
     
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