I bet not many ex Multistrada owners report back on their choice of replacement bike. Well here goes: I sold my MTS12000 Touring at 15000 miles when I discovered that the more mileage I put on it, the harder it would be to sell, dealer or private. There were other reasons, including the height of the kick required to get my leg over the pillion seat. My first and only Ducati ownership was not the best experience in my motorcycling life though the bike, when running properly, was undeniably spectacular. Its replacement was a Yamaha Super Tenere 1200. Kind of a Multistrada without the steroids. I haven’t regretted the change though there is still that little yearning that I expect is common to all ex Ducati owners. The fuelling is perfect and the economy is great (average 50 mpg). Biggest gain is that it manages high forties mpg at 90-100mph cruising when the Multi would be down in the thirties. The engine is quick enough for exciting riding though down on the MTS 150bhp of course. The Yamaha is MUCH more flexible, pulling lustily from under 2000rpm The handling is good enough to ground things, limited mainly by the lack of choice in the adventure bike tyre sizes. Never mind, the Conti Road Attack IIs are fine and lasting much better than anything I fitted to the Multistrada. Brakes are good; the electronic linking is especially effective. Fronts don’t quite match the Ducati though they invoke the ABS easily enough but the rear makes the Multistrada rear seem plain sad. The range of traction control adjustment is limited but that doesn’t mean it is not effective. Suspension is supple, which is a boon on current British B roads. Fit and finish is excellent as is access for most routine tasks. What a joy to take off the rear wheel nut without a 6 foot extension on the socket wrench! Comfort more than matches the Multi and getting aboard is easier. There is a vast range of accessory luggage available so I am not stuck with the OEM panniers which are as poor as the Ducati ones. It is overpriced new but there are plenty of discounted or used models available. Mine, at 3000 miles and 9 months old, had every available extra fitted and saved 30% on the new price. I’ve already added 6000 miles in 3 months without the slightest hiccup. Wish my Multistrada could have claimed the same! Yamaha spares prices show how cheap Ducati parts are and I hate the silly spoked wheels. Hard to clean and need checking. On the other hand, the optional touring screen with its fairing mounted wind deflectors works brilliantly and it has shaft drive. The best thing about the Yamaha is that, being Japanese, it does exactly what it says it does. No excuses or “all Ducatis are like that”. I set out on trans-Europe rides without any concerns. I never dared do that on the Multi. Stay safe whatever you ride.
Thanks for your honest appraisal. Getting it at the right price makes all the difference as it is just too expensive new. Glad you are enjoying the bike and like anything it's all about each persons individual needs. If I needed a bike to ride higher milages and everyday it wouldn't be the Multi but for my needs it's perfect (well almost!)
A good little interesting read All very valid points, and I agree with them all Thankfully for me, I've not had the horror story's some have had on here ! Touch wood !! And I still love the multi appeal and desirability ! Hope it stays like that ! Lol But enjoy your Super Tenere all the same !
Great and honest. You are right there is a large choice of similar machines out there and if it were up to me I'd have a garage full of them. I rode the Triumph Explorer 1200 prior to the Multi, and got to say its hard to fault it. Also had a GSA, they all have there little problems. It all depends what you are after at the time. Funny thing is though, whichever bike I have at any given time always seems to be the beat thing since slice bread. (until I move on to the next one).
Wish I could say the same, then I wouldn't be selling the Triumph. Funny thing really, the Triumph has done everything I've asked of it with more than a hint of panache, but it just hasn't grown on me. I have affectionately named it 'the Triumph'...
Sorry to say that I too replaced my MTS 1200 - with a 1997 Honda CBR 1000f for 1400 sovs ! My high mileage was killing the value - so I had to decide. I really loved the bike, apart from the ABS brakes, but if I am honest she was a bit too " high maintenance" for me ! Oh well - you live and learn !!
A very interesting read with some thought provoking points. It does seem that high mileages on the newer Multi are clobbering the residual values, but is this just dealers looking to make a bit extra profit? The used car market seems to be the same ( we looked at swapping the Saab, offered 2.5k by dealer who would be looking to sell at 5.5k!,,,). Hope you continue to enjoy the Yam and maybe one day return to Ducati's when you don't have to cover so many miles each year. Chris
Hmmm. Good read and I understand your logic. I've got a Triumph Explorer1200 and it is absolutely brilliant and I just can't get enough of it. However I am just about to buy a Multi 1200S because logic doesn't come into my decision making process. Ducatis are like that!!
Thanks for your honesty Viewdvb. I'm in the same pos'n with my 2011 abs 10k miles and rising rapidly due to friends moving to France and 3 or 4 visits a year will rack up 2.5k mls each visit riding down from Scotland, that plus impending retirement means my beauty will have to be replaced by a smaller bike that I can get on and off a trailer on my own. I'll try and hang on to my 848 Streetfighter, but it's unlikely. Like you I think despite any frustrations I've had there will still be a Duke in me somewhere. Guess it's time to look at a secondhand 800 Tiger or 800 GS..............enjoy your Tenere ownership
If you fancy a Tiger 800 you'll like this. [h=5]Video: Icon take the Triumph Tiger 800 off-road - | Motorcycle News | Bike News | Motorbike Videos | MCN[/h]I had one for a year until I couldn't resist the temptation to buy the 1200. The T800 is a fantastic bike that will make you grin for sure.
I am in the same position really mines just coming up to 10,000 miles and out of warranty in march,went to dealers about changing it was offered £8200 with out extras £8600 with all the extras ,big intake of breath when i told the salesman the mileage,but i thought that these bikes were built to do mileage :frown:. I have had various issues new clocks,3 horns, back brake still not right,new headlight,new heated grips with this bike but the engine is fantastic but i am concerned once the bike is out of warranty it will start to cost me a fortune as trust in the bike is fading a bit,not to knock my dealers cause they have been great with any warranty issues but Ducati themselves don,t appear to have a good recall service back brake issue (if you dont ask you dont get) So not sure what to do or what to change it for really. (2011,1200 base,tergi pipe,panniers,heated grips,rad Guards
surely the depreciation will not be as steep after the first year, Ducati make a lot of the "15000 miles between major services" statement.
Does any one really expect a decent trade in price from a dealer, the bikes are always top dollar and they have to make a profit on them ! Either sell via an independant trader or sell private. If people are that concerned the get a new bike on a PCP. and swap every 2/3 years.
Sorry guys but buy virtually any new vehicle, bike or car and the depreciation is horrific (and thats even after allowing for 20% vat which most folk can't claim back). Look at the opening post, he got his nearly new Super Ten at a 30% saving. The dealers are there to try and make money in a tough climate (no I'm not a dealer) so don't be surprised at a crap trade in price. If you really want a laugh put any bike not just Multi's into webuyanybike.com Same goes for putting mileage on bikes, it's always been the same no matter what the make. I had a 996R limited edition only 500 made and the reaction I got when trying to sell this collectors item with 22,000 miles on the clock, intake of breath....how many? Even worse was a lad I know, when he tried to sell his Pan European with 400,000 miles (yes thats not a typo). You buy the bike to ride and enjoy, plus buying Ducati's rarely involves any logic. Rant over, I'm going to polish my bike.
Interesting change from a multistrada to a tenere, i really dont think the ducati has any peers, the tenere is a gs rival. i test rode a bmw gs adventure and a multistrada in 2011 and went for the safe option as i saw it a brand new loaded bmw. In many respects it was the better bike. Not a single issue with the gsa in 6500 miles problem was every time i saw a multistrada i wanted to be on that instead. Depreciation on the bmw was £2600 in 9 months and 6.5k miles, steep and i doubt the ducati is any worse or better than most on the initial drop in value but they still have a suspect reliability record which will hit values harder than most with increased/higher mileage.
