749 Clutch Oh No

Discussion in '749 / 999' started by mattyboy 38, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. Are you read oh no another problem here goes any ideas clutch works fine until ya need to stop in traffic then it seams to be pulling I did however miss a cog and it slammed into gear I've got all new fluid but it's either on or off and makes ya look a fool in traffic it just does not seam to full disengage any idea I'm thinking slave cylinder ???????????
     
  2. That's Italian "character" you have there.
     
  3. You have clutch drag.
    Is this something new and if so, have you changed anything recently?
    Common causes are:
    air in the clutch fluid, which unlike the fluid, will compress so the clutch doesn't release fully.
    New clutch plates can stick in the clutch drum slots.
    Loose slave cylinder, so slave cylinder moves as well as pushrod.
    Too high a clutch stack, so clutch can't clear properly.
     
  4. Mmmm nowt new however it's a noisey one and it's always been an on off clutch that is right at the bar agh mmmmmmmmm
     
  5. How do I fix that
     
  6. How you fix it spends on what's wrong.
    Usual thing to try first is bleeding the clutch fluid to remove any air.
    Have you done any bleeding? I'm sure there will be UTube tutorials if you haven't.
    I read somewhere that tying the lever to the bar overnight can help remove residual air in the system, so doing that might just help.
    If your clutch is noisy and grabby, I recommend you remove the clutch plates, give them a good clean and reassemble them using the quiet clutch mod method. If you want to have a lighter clutch as well, try simply re-ordering the plates by putting a friction plate in first, rather than the usual plain plate. Then just alternate plates until you end up with a plain plate last. I have no doubled up plain plates in my stack and this gives me a really light lever with no drag and no slip. If you do get some slip, you can always double up plain plates again, either at the bottom or top of the stack but remember to keep a friction plate right at the bottom for a quiet clutch.
    A quiet clutch is a long lasting clutch because the noise translates into wear. So it's win-win.
     
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  7. Pulled the plates out and they are well past there sell by date any links to a set of plates not to expensive
     
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  8. The two last steels are rust I'll clean them with brake cleaner and use again
     
  9. Been offered an stem slipper for 250 second hand what's ya veiws
     
  10. You have mentioned changing the clutch fluid and bleeding the clutch . Did you bleed the mastercylinder as well . Its the 8mm bolt inthe oil reservoir in case you dont know . Slacken it and pump the lever very slowly . Thus is the pronlem with many graby clutches. Apart from your knackered plates.
     
  11. Yeh I've done all that I think my major problem is now I have slim to no fibre on the plates ha ha ha cheap Ducati never end up cheap he he
     
  12. So mine came outsteal friction and so forth until the end where there was two steal so yo say first in friction steal and so forth until pressure plate end has a steal or two ??????? This does not seam to work out
     
  13. This will work out, except you will have steel plain plates left over. This will reduce your stack height and give you a lighter clutch lever.
    It should also reduce the likelihood of drag but it is possible it will cause slip but mine certainly doesn't slip and I have no doubled up plain plates.
    Try it, I think you'll be pleased.
     
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  14. I like the idea but I like the noise of my clutch defines a Ducati has anyone else used this method
     
  15. If you like the sound of your clutch bashing itself to bits and don't mind replacing plates and basket every few thousand miles, stick with the plain plate first method.
     
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