848 Rear Tyre Skipping Out

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by redsail, Oct 2, 2015.

  1. I've noticed this increasing lately, I'm not sure if its my riding or something to do with the bike. I usually use a lot of engine breaking to slow into corners and I'm used to a little bit of skipping from the rear but last two rides it seemed to be doing it a lot more. Bike is an 848 Corse SE, 2yrs old, ~8.5k miles, no slipper clutch, Avon 3D Ultras.

    Can clutch wear cause this? I tightened the chain recently, maybe too much? My only other thought is that I'm subconsciously not breaking as hard as usual (I have some shoulder pain ATM).
     
  2. Colder weather, tyres not heating up?
     
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  3. That's a good point. Didn't think of that. Not noticing lack of grip elsewhere though.
     
  4. The above certainly makes sense.

    That coupled with engine braking, weight transfer and peeling in, is enough to unload the rear and make it a bit "floaty" IMO.
     
  5. I'm used to it happening, it just seems to be happening in less extreme situations. It used to be only when breaking on long straights, like approaching roundabouts on dual carriageways. Now I'm getting it into corners in the twisties. It hasn't happened this regularly before, only when really pushing. Colder weather could be the likely variable, just want to rule out something mechanical.
     
  6. changed from the original coarsa's to Michelin's for that v.reason
     
  7. It could well be rear shock needing servicing? Perhaps when the weight is shifting forwards the rebound is making it extend a little to fast and causing it to break, would only have to be a little if the tyre is already worn or not coming up to temperature. Maybe a shock service due?
     
  8. No idea how you fellas get that out if shape. Never had issues on the road with rear lock up on any of my ducatis, except when riding like on a track
     
  9. Could well be shock issues. I've suspected the setup isn't ideal for the road. I'm also getting crap all milage from the rears, on my 3rd this year and that's one's almost done. The forward edge of the sipes is rounded off which, I believe, is a rebound issue. On track I was getting too much squat but dialled that out with a bit of extra comp.
     
  10. Went from Corsas to Angel GTs back to Corsas now on Avon 3D Ultras as my friends all raved about the milage, one guy has done 9k on his!! I loved the corsas but they didn't last 5 mins.
     
  11. This is where it's such a black art, my understanding is that compression wouldn't stop squat, it would just slow the rate in which it happens (ie damping the compression) so u would have needed to add preload to stop squat.

    My 899 has ruined the front tyre in 1400 miles, from new, I have NO idea why I seem to be so unlucky with Pirelli tyres but every time I have a bike with them on I seem to get really bad 'stepping' on the front tyre.

    JHS told me its not me and that all Ducati's eat front tyres but I dunno, bit sick of it now
     
  12. happened on the same corner twice, been commuting on that road for 15years, one of the corners i like to test my P.B on.the bike was new and deffo not pushing it, only happened in the morning on the way to work. i once upon a time didn't believe tyre choice would make a difference on the road. how wrong was i.
     
  13. Well, my guess was squat was the cause (though power actually causes the rear to rise, surprisingly), the actual problem was headshake on track which i assumed was rear shock related. Slowing the comp rate Seemed to fixed it. Unlinke changes to the front i find it difficult to feel changes to the shock rebound and comp, except in extreme cases like that.

    I've read a fair bit and watched a lot of dave moss vids, but youre right it still seems like a black art.
     
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