What would people think of a car driver on a nice, NSL country lane travelling along at 10-15mph for no apparent reason? Is that acceptable behaviour? What if the car driver has no choice? Say, because he is stuck behind one or more cyclists? Is the car driver acting in an acceptable manner? Is the cyclist? What if there is no cyclist, but there is a pedestrian jogging along the road? How is this different? For the road user who is following said car driver - it doesn't matter whether the car driver is following a pedestrian, a cyclist or whatever, the answer is that the road user who is following that car is being held up. Is this acceptable? What is the difference, whether there is a pedestrian, cyclist or not, in practical terms? Is it any less inconvenient, or irritating, to have a car travelling at 10-15 mph on a lovely country road, whatever the reason? What if people want to start pushing supermarket trolleys in the middle of the road? Are they entitled to do so? Is it safe to do so? In what important way is this different from people dawdling in the road on their bicycle?
I saw someone once go around a bend, too fast to allow for him to stop in the space he could see. I think it was in 1985. I've never seen it happen again, in all this time. Amazing. :Smug: Oh, wait. No. I see it every single day, all the time. My mistake.
and why did ii get a speeding ticket for overtaking a freeking caravan at the first safe place after 8mls of freekin 40mph an hour in a perfectly safe 50-60mph 50-80mph up loch linnie.
Well enough people seem to be with me on this one. Maybe we should just walk everywhere, just in case a piano falls out of the sky in front of our vehicles.
@Loz People have an obligation to act in a reasonable way, if you come up behind a slow moving obstruction and it is not safe to overtake then you wait until it is safe to do so. If you are a slow moving vehicle, or cyclist, then it is reasonable to minimise the inconvenience to other road users and facilitate people overtaking when it is safe to do so. What isn't OK is people behaving in an inconsiderate manner and putting other peoples lives at risk. Simple really.
It is always safe to go twenty mph under the speed limit, no matter what ... and going twenty mph over the speed limit always results in a fatality, every single time, without fail. There you go, fin!
It's simple next time you come to a red light just go through it and tell the police it's ok I'm a cyclist! alternatively let's all ride round three abreast like cyclists do and tell the police it's for safety reasons!! If we have an accident it's the car/van drivers fault no matter what we ve done! What's the difference between motorcyclist's and MAMIL?? We can be above the law as well sweet Job done why didn't anyone think of this before
It is indeed simple. I'll spell it out for you, nevertheless. There is no place, or room even, for bicycles, horses, pedestrians or supermarket trolley pushers, on roads that are NSL, in the South of England. The sheer volume of traffic is too great for the available tarmac - even if traffic is able to flow at something approaching the speed limit. Throw in tractors, milk floats, cyclists and any other type of road user than cannot even make half the speed limit, and you have grid-lock. I commute twenty miles to work, twenty miles back home, every day, passing through countryside, town by-passes, dual carriageways, etc and at rush hour, the traffic is nose-to-tail, in both directions, throughout. Bear in mind that the rush hour seems to last from 05:00 to 21:00. Whenever a cyclist refuses to use a cycle path, or where there is no cycle path available, there is immediately created a tail-back anywhere up to seven miles long (or more). Obviously, if I was fortunate enough to live somewhere much nicer, say North of Kendal, I could (and would) be entirely clueless about traffic problems and would have no gripe with cyclists
I am only clueless about traffic problems south of Kendal, but I hear they can be pretty bad . How long does your 20 mile commute take ?
At five in the morning, I once did it in 18-minutes door to door, in a Seat Arosa 1.0. At normal travelling time, say 06:30 to 07:15, it takes about 25-30mins on the bike, or 45-65mins in the car. The reverse trip takes longer, for some reason. These timings can and often do, double or even triple if there has been an RTI on the dual carriageway. I should point out that of the twenty miles, approximately half is Hampshire and half is in West Sussex and that the West Sussex portion of the journey features around 120,000 roundabouts. Some of these I filter for and some of which I deem too dangerous to filter. I almost never use the car these days, I was getting completely crazy with the road-rage thing.
Dont know how I manage to miss them cyclists at all . Half the time i'm going too fast and the other half i'm not looking where i'm going . Beats me why I dont get one a day . Maybe i'm subconsiously in control . Maybe .
Just toot the cyclist and gesture they move over I overtake them then pull in front of them and drive slow Only if there is no traffic mind I made this up I just follow till it's safe to pass
