Can't answering the 899 front but I went from a 1199 to a rsv4 factory. Haven't tracked the rsv4 yet but a Few observations from a road riding perspective 1199 More comfortable. Better riding position doesn't put as much strain on your lower back and neck. Traction control unable to change on the fly. Turns in great not as stable as the rsv4 Rsv4 Noise it makes on standard exhaust is better More of a power band so can get on throttle early without tieing itself up. Having said that the engine is very tractable and it takes a bit getting used to being able to rev up to 14k again Quickshifter feels better than the 1199 On the fly adjustable traction control doesn't intervene too abruptly or maybe that's just the way ride..I am not hamfisted so tend to smoothly roll on the throttle rather than yank it Both are great bikes however I do still yearn for a ducati again.
Yep, have a gearbox here from my 2011 Tuono APRC, never tracked just a road bike with 10k and very well maintained. Fourth gear just gave up the ghost one day on a short spin. No warning just the occasional missed gear. Not uncommon either on the earlier model. Having saying that though, a cracking bike. Peach of a motor, fantastic handling and a great APRC system. Good comfort too on the Tuono.
Isn't this the Ducati forum :Banghead: I had to have a full engine rebuild at 7000 miles because a cam sheared off. Ducati are lowest on my personal manufacturer reliability list... Still have one though, there's just something about them. [emoji6]
Oh I agree....just saying. Any bike will have little issues/things that need looking after. But a full engine/gearbox rebuild is a different matter. Just the sort of thing to happen session one day one of a 4 day European trackday (I'm trying to persuade @bradders to get a 675 )
Granted the RSV4 does get bad press and I should know with my first one :Bawling: but my second one was bullet proof, I would have another in a heartbeat..if only I had some more money
Have you rode both the 1199 and 899 Bradders? The 675 was significantly sharper radius turning than my 1199 and I'm interested to know how the 899 compares. Before the 675 I'd always considered the 1199 a very quick turning bike but I've only ever had other big bikes to compare to.
Why not go and try a Daytona out of the road. That would at least give you an idea of how it feels/steers
Ive owned both for about 1500 miles each. The 899 is a tiny bit easier and sharper to turn , probably down to the rear wheel width. My old daytona 675 was nowhere near as quick but that was a 06 model
I'm sure that neither will dissapoint but I am on the 675 Side of the fence, my D675R around Oulton park was just unbelievable! I just dialled in 'Track' settings to the stock Ohlins and it just sharpened it up, I could ride 100% throttle over the blind crests with just a little bar wag and the occasional power wheelie, it didn't feel intimidating or like I had to take my concentration away from picking my line. I was following a 899 for most sessions, not sure why but we kept ending up following each other, he wasn't pulling away out of the corners, and was using similar lines which now I own a 899 I can understand as it's much more flickable than the traditional 848/1098 Character. Hand on heart I was say that I would be slower on track on my 899 at the mo, and I think @burndownthediscos would agree that the 899 takes a little more to get stopped up due to lack of slipper etc. The 675 is the closest I have felt to a 250CC two stroke in terms of front end poise and I would have one tomorrow as a track bike, there wouldn't be another option. I don't want to be 'scared' by a bike, I don't want to feel like I am only able to scratch the surface at my level of riding, and I actually felt like I was really able to push the 675.
But way too slow when you are the wrong side of 100kgs I am torn between whther I will 'need' the power or the power will intimidate my riding, which I think contributed to my lack of pace on my gixer Funny how you seem to get to each corner quicker, yet dont lap any quicker...
675 - sublime handling light weight (ish) and rewarding. RSVR super handling, light weight (ish) and scary/rewarding
It's because the less skilled guys are crapping there pants halfway down the straight and braking while the tiddlers go by them on the throttle! Obv I don't speak for the fast boys who are flying on them! When I was at Oulton there was a guy on a diavel in the fast group backing it in, flying he was! As a aside note....
Wouldnt say I crap it going half way down the straight, but you do have to scrub off less speed on the smaller cc bike and riding style is different, and means apex braking is essential to get good times where less so on a small bike
899 was more fun, even tho it wasnt mine, they wouldnt allow traction off or even reduced under 5, the tyres were ok but not great, and I stood a grand if I slung it down the road
